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Offline linda51

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:42 BST (UK) »
Information provided = Robert Pearson came from Newcastle and served in WWII - hence National Archives record and attempt to see if the Robert Pearson found showing birth in 1916, would have Ivy Williams shown as wife on his service record.

This isnít a service record Ė itís a POW index card, created in Germany in 1940, so it wonít show a marriage of 1945.

His service record will be held at the MoD, and next-of-kin can apply for it (by sending £30 and a copy of the death certificate). Takes several months to come through.
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records

Thanks. I thought the National Archives showed summaries of service records.

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks. I thought the National Archives showed summaries of service records.

Not for WW2. They are gradually being transferred from the MoD, but it is a long-term project and will take several years.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks. I thought the National Archives showed summaries of service records.

Not for WW2. They are gradually being transferred from the MoD, but it is a long-term project and will take several years.

Thanks again. Am I right in thinking Ancestry have some WWII service records available?

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 June 22 22:15 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has a WW1 record for William Pearson with son Robert b 28 Aug 1916 Elswick
William Pearson   self
Jenny Harvey        spouse
Thomas Clark Pearson   child
William Pearson   child
Robert Pearson
Service number  1433
Address in Newcastle

contains marriage 1914 and children born 1909, 1913, 1916. I can only find birth mmn Harvey for Robert.


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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #13 on: Monday 27 June 22 22:34 BST (UK) »
No. Not WW2 service records.

There are cards, lists and various random indexes for some WW2 categories on Ancestry and elsewhere but I donít know what they cover.

I believe there are some RAF records at the National Archives and elsewhere though I donít know the extent of these either.

As others have already mentioned, you need to apply for WW2 service records from the MoD. It will cost you £30 and youíll probably have to wait around a year to receive them. Application form:
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records
If your WW2 serviceman or woman happens to still be alive there is no charge and the order will be filled as a priority.

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 June 22 22:46 BST (UK) »
Further into the record it shows Thomas Clark 1909 and William (now added second name)
Campbell 1913  as illegitimate, both registered with surname Harvey
William as in the Northumberland Fusiliers 1433 then transferred to R E number 347996

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 June 22 23:29 BST (UK) »
The Robert Pearson who died 1989 I o W was b 25.7.1913

You really need to buy a copy of the 1945 marriage cert to get his fathers name & occupation
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 June 22 01:21 BST (UK) »
There are some trees on Ancestry that show Robert Pearson born 25/7/1913, died 1989 IOW was born in Gateshead (Sept.qtr.1913 Gateshead, mmn Jennings) and that his parents were Robert Pearson and Eliza Ann Jennings who married Dec.qtr.1908 Gateshead.   He did indeed marry Ivy M. Williams Mar. qtr. 1945 Bristol.

They appear to have had 7 children between Sept.qtr.1945 and Dec.qtr.1955, all in Isle of Wight (one of them a Trevor born and died 1953). 

Ivy May Williams was born 11/9/1915 Isle of Wight (birth reg'd Dec.qtr.1915, mmn Lane.  She died in Isle of Wight in 2007.

Her parents appear to be an Albert C H Williams and 2nd wife Ellen Lane who married just before Ivy was born in June quarter 1915 Isle of Wight.  (First wife Jane died June qtr.1914 Isle of Wight).

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 June 22 06:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone who has responded and provided information - your posts are brilliant. I'm just doing some casual research for a friend, so think he'll be very pleased. I haven't done any genealogy for some years and finding it very hard..............post-covid brain fog!!