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Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« on: Monday 27 June 22 20:00 BST (UK) »
I've found this record on the National Archives: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C17496077

I searched birth records and found only one which fits:
PEARSON, ROBERT  WILLIAM     HORNSBY 
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 115

I'd dearly like to know more. To make a 100% identification - he married Ivy Williams 1st quarter 1945, Bristol, Gloucester.  Would that information be included on the full records?

 

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:08 BST (UK) »
You have his mothers maiden name - Hornsby

That is simply a birth registration & will not give any details of his marriage

Several options

Check for a Pearson/Hornsby marriage which will give his fathers name. www.freebmd.org.uk. Likely one in 1909 - Robert William Pearson/Helena Hornsby

Or - check the 1921 census

Look him up on the 1939 register

Buy a copy of the marriage cert to confirm his parents names
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Trying to verify marriage
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:17 BST (UK) »
Apologies - I have my mind on two different issues!! I'm trying to make sure the National Archives record is the Robert Pearson who married Ivy Williams in 1945. Would that information be shown on the full record?


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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:18 BST (UK) »
As stated in my reply - itís a birth registration only

How did you arrive at Robert William Pearson?  1945 marriage entry only has him as Robert?

When & where did he die?  If he died 1969 onwards his full birthdate will be on the death registration
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Re: Trying to verify marriage
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:20 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to make sure the National Archives record is the Robert Pearson who married Ivy Williams in 1945. Would that information be shown on the full record?

The description (on the link below) shows you what may be found on the full record, but not all the cards contain all these categories of information Ö

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C14541141

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks BB.

Carole - I have a death registered Isle of Wight in 1989. Age 75. Birth year 1913-1914.

Am trying to identify the father of a friend - and the birth registration of the friend show Williams as MMN.  Friend's parents apparently got married in Bristol - hence registration: Ivy M Williams & Robert Pearson m 1st quarter 1945, Bristol, Gloucester.   Information provided = Robert Pearson came from Newcastle and served in WWII - hence National Archives record and attempt to see if the Robert Pearson found showing birth in 1916, would have Ivy Williams shown as wife on his service record.

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:37 BST (UK) »
This  looks like the Robert you found

Death
Robert William Pearson age 0
Dec 1914
Newcastle upon Tyne

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:39 BST (UK) »
Information provided = Robert Pearson came from Newcastle and served in WWII - hence National Archives record and attempt to see if the Robert Pearson found showing birth in 1916, would have Ivy Williams shown as wife on his service record.

This isnít a service record Ė itís a POW index card, created in Germany in 1940, so it wonít show a marriage of 1945.

His service record will be held at the MoD, and next-of-kin can apply for it (by sending £30 and a copy of the death certificate). Takes several months to come through.
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records

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Re: Trying to find mother's maiden surname
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 June 22 20:41 BST (UK) »
This  looks like the Robert you found

Death
Robert William Pearson age 0
Dec 1914
Newcastle upon Tyne

Thanks...............he's obviously not the person I'm looking for.