Unfamiliar Latin Abbreviations

[Zacktyr]

Hi,

I am having difficulty deciphering some unfamiliar Latin abbreviations.  I use Capelli's dictionary of Latin abbreviations and can find none of the highlighted abbreviated words in his dictionary.  This is a declaration regarding a trespass incident.  Of the 21 unfamiliar abbreviations one of the abbreviations is repeated numerous times and in some places appears as "pld" and in other places appears as "xld".  Any assistance is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

[Vance Mead]

Walter Gribble was attached (had property seized to force compliance) to answer Joseph Gribble on a placito (plea, pleading) of trespass on the case. Trespass on the case is a class of actions concerning damages for negligence or non-fulfilment of an agreement. Gregory Anthony his attorney.

Cons = consideration, a small sum to seal an agreement.

Promisit solvere = he promised to resolve or pay

In a couple places unum solid = one shilling

Most of the rest, ending in s or d, are sums of money. "ei xld" is paying to him 40 pence. xvis is 16 shillings.

Is this on AALT? It will be easier to read the copy there without sideways scrolling.

[Bookbox]

one of the abbreviations is repeated numerous times and in some places appears as "pld" and in other places appears as "xld".

This abbreviation is p^(re)d(ictus), with various -us, -um endings, according to context. It means 'aforesaid'. What looks like a letter l in the middle is a superscript contraction for -re.

(Vance, I don't see any sums of money here, except the 2 pounds 1 shilling in the original promissory note. Which line is it in?)

[manukarik]

Bookbox - I think Vance is referring to the lines 3 and 4 up from the bottom of the extract.

[Bookbox]

Bookbox - I think Vance is referring to the lines 3 and 4 up from the bottom of the extract.

Thanks, manukarik. From 5 lines up, halfway through the line, this is how I read it ...

... Et in Cons(ideratione) inde idem Walterus sup(er) se

assumpsit & eid(em) Josepho adtunc & ib(ide)m fidelit(er) p(ro)misit ad solvend(um) ei p(re)d(ictas) duas libras & un(um)

solid(um) cum inde p(os)tea requisit(um) fuisset  Cumq(ue) e(t)c(etera) p(re)d(ictus) Walterus p(os)tea scil(ice)t eod(em) decimo …

[Vance Mead]

You're right Bookbox, I misread that bit.

[Bookbox]

You're right Bookbox, I misread that bit.

But it looks like there could be more sums of money to come, after the cut-off point at the end of this extract.

[Zacktyr]

Walter Gribble was attached (had property seized to force compliance) to answer Joseph Gribble on a placito (plea, pleading) of trespass on the case. Trespass on the case is a class of actions concerning damages for negligence or non-fulfilment of an agreement. Gregory Anthony his attorney.

Cons = consideration, a small sum to seal an agreement.

Promisit solvere = he promised to resolve or pay

In a couple places unum solid = one shilling

Most of the rest, ending in s or d, are sums of money. "ei xld" is paying to him 40 pence. xvis is 16 shillings.

Is this on AALT? It will be easier to read the copy there without sideways scrolling.

Hello, Vance,

Thank you for your input on this document for me.  It is greatly appreciated.  Unfortunately, this document is not on AALT but, rather, was obtained directly from the county record office.

The "Cons" is interesting and certainly fits the tenor of this document.  Capelli's dictionary actually has a "Cons" abbreviation.  But, it is used in court documents for 'Consularis' and if a lower case letter, e.g. "cons", then for consanguinity.

For the life of me, I couldn't discern the word "unum" from the author's handwriting.  Thank you.

As to the words that appear as "xld" and "pld", I have to agree with Bookbox.  This author's handwriting is very frustrating.  If you look at the word that appears to be "xlfat" (last line, third highlighted word), the only word that I know of in Latin that fits that general formation is 'praefatis'.  If the "xl" is 'prae' in this word, then I would have to substitute the "xld" for 'praed', then of course the word becomes 'praedicti'.

Thank you for deciphering "attach" and "plito" for me.  What is your interpretation of the last highlighted word on that first line?  I can't make any sense out of that at all.

[Zacktyr]

You're right Bookbox, I misread that bit.

But it looks like there could be more sums of money to come, after the cut-off point at the end of this extract.

Hi, Bookbox,

As always, your input is so valuable.  Thank you so much.

I have attached the last half of this document with this post.  In this portion there are only 9 abbreviated words that I am having difficulty with and of those 9 I have interpreted the last one "oio" as "omnino". 

I have also set out, below, my interpretation of this portion of the document.  Each line of my interpretation corresponds to each line in the document.  I am fairly certain I have some wrong interpretations and would greatly appreciate it if you would cast your eye over my interpretation and correct where necessary.  I am finding this handwriting somewhat difficult to decipher and his abbreviations challenging.  For simplicity sake, I have omitted the brackets surrounding the missing letters in the contracted words. 

"secundum eidem JOSEPHO per praefatis WALTERUM ante tempus illud ibidem debitus & insolutus et super

Compo illo praedictus WALTERUS adtunc & ibidem inventes fuit in arrerarage erga enud JOSEPHUM

in Quadraginto & un solid legalis moneto Magne Britanie et sic in arrerarage inventes

existen praedictus WALTERUS in Consideratione inde super se assumpsit & eidem JOSEPHO adtunc & ibidem

fidelites promisit quod ipe praedictus WALTERUS praedictus Quadragintes & un Solid eidem JOSEPHO tunc inde

postea requisites esset bene & fidelites solvere & contentare vellet praedictus unius tamen

WALTERUS seperalis promission & assumpion suas praedictus eidem JOSEPHO in forma praedictus factus

mie curan sed machinan & fraudulentus intenden enud JOSEPHNE in hac parte callide &

subdole decipere & defraudare praedictus separalis denar secundum sen aliquando inde denar eidem JOSEPHO

non solvit nec ei pro inde aliqualito contentavit (licet ad hoc faciendus praedictus WALTERUS

postea scilicet primo die ffebruarii Anno domini Millimo [word crossed through] Septingentesimo tricesimo

Supradictus et sepius postea apud Barnestaple praedictus infra iuris praedictus per enud JOSEPHUM

requisitus fuit) sed illias ei solvere sen pro inde aliqualites contentare huc usque omnino

recusavit & ad huc remsat ad dampun ipsius JOSEPHI Quatuor libraorum & guatuor

solid et inde produc sectam etc"