Birmingham Catholic (?) Marriage Record 1865

[RoserAncestors]

Hi all, my mother shares a 61.5 cM DNA match with a paper-trail descendant of James Kelly who married Catherine Jordan in the 1st quarter of 1865 in the Birmingham registration district, volume 6d, page 236.

I would very much like to view an image of this record to see the groom's father's name and occupation. I would be happy to order it from the GRO but just thought I'd quickly check if there any online sources I haven't checked. I have subscriptions to Ancestry and Findmypast but can't locate it there. Similarly IGI and FreeReg.

I believe my mother is likely related to the DNA match through James Kelly. I have located him in the 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911 and 1921 English censuses. The 1921 census records his birthplace as Strokestown, Ireland. Earlier censuses give County Roscommon, Ireland. My mother's connections with the Strokestown area, including her Kelly connections, were all Catholic. The 1865 marriage I am looking for may therefore have been a Catholic marriage.

[CaroleW]

Ancestry only have C of E marriages for Birmingham

[BumbleB]

You may need to contact the Catholic Archdiocese of Birmingham. 

http://www.birminghamarchdiocesanarchives.org.uk/

[Maiden Stone]

FindMyPast registers for Birmingham Archdiocese.
Arranged by county.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/england-roman-catholic-marriages-parish-lists
 Registers from only 6 churches in the city of Birmingham.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/catholics/

Midland Ancestors
https://midland-ancestors.uk

[kgmoore]

I looked through all the Roman Catholic marriages for Birmingham and there are no marriages between James Kelly and Catherine Jordan.

[Maiden Stone]

I looked through all the Roman Catholic marriages for Birmingham and there are no marriages between James Kelly and Catherine Jordan.

It may have been at a church not on FindMyPast.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/Birmingham
Select "Nearby churches tab and then adjust distance for a map with location markers colour-coded according to religious denomination. R.C. = yellow. Enlarge map and click on yellow markers in areas where James and Catherine lived to see name of each church + foundation year of some.

The wedding may not have been in a Catholic church. Some Catholics continued to marry at Anglican churches. Registry office was another option. 

[PaulineJ]

Looks like a register office marriage.

Marriage Locator Search Results
GRO Index: 1865 quarter 1, volume 6d, page 236:

Sorry, we cannot locate the church for this marriage. The entry is located between entries for Birmingham St Thomas (RD: Birmingham) and Ashted St James the Less (RD: Aston).

[Maiden Stone]

Looks like a register office marriage.

Marriage Locator Search Results
GRO Index: 1865 quarter 1, volume 6d, page 236:

Sorry, we cannot locate the church for this marriage. The entry is located between entries for Birmingham St Thomas (RD: Birmingham) and Ashted St James the Less (RD: Aston).

Although it may have been a "Registrar Attended" wedding. Marriage index on Lancashire BMD website, the one with which I'm most familiar, has "Registry Office or Registrar Attended" for weddings at Catholic and Non-conformist churches. A registrar had to be present at weddings in those churches.