Author Topic: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature  (Read 1440 times)

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 73,466
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 July 22 10:40 BST (UK) »
Quote
Btw, if you have “hundreds of records on your tree” you probably wouldn’t be classed as a “total novice”.

Exactly - I haven't even counted how many I have but I know I haven't had to delete any because I researched them thoroughly myself before adding them.  To blindly follow "hints" or "suggestions" without checking is asking for trouble

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

Offline chrissiecruiser

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 281
  • Dora Berg (12/5/1893-8/10/1916)
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 03 July 22 13:25 BST (UK) »
Sandrafamilytree, as the others have said....it's really up to you and your research!
I was on Ancestry for quite a while, unsure at first, then started filling in my rellies lives with lots of research.
I did a DNA test and was pleasantly surprised that it proved everything I had done!
Keep going, it's great to put "flesh on the bones".
Cheers,
Chris
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 73,466
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 July 22 14:11 BST (UK) »
AngelJunction

Your thread here   https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=863047.0

Your reply 15 

Quote
Are you happy for a large group of hobbyists to research your family  as they see fit ,?

Reply 16

Quote
It already happens- think of the countless inaccurate family trees, people attaching your ancestors to the wrong family, etc.

It follows that if people post their trees on Ancestry with inaccurate info - how can Ancestry contradict it?

It also follows that if people make incorrect amendments to Ancestry entries (ie) correct census or BMD entries - then that is also outside of Ancestry's control








Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

Offline SplanK

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 63
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 July 22 18:32 BST (UK) »
You have singled out Ancestry here, however once you start getting 'knee deep' in your research, you will find that there are many more examples where information may not be as accurate as you would like, be it 'user sourced' or official documentation!

Birth/Marriage/Death records may not contain factual information and ancestors have either adjusted the truth to fit their lives (IE listing the wrong father on marriage cert, or typically wrong age...) or simply didnt know/guessed.  It is why its important to obtain as much documentation as possible to verify things like age, and links between individuals

I always take other peoples work with a pinch of salt and always verify.   Its great when you find a tree with information in that can help you, IE maybe you have missed a sibling, so looking at other tree's may help help direct you, but should never be trusted as 'the truth'.

Other websites such as Findagrave/Billion Graves - I only ever submit an entry which I have taken a photo of a headstone and then submit exactly what I see on the stone, adding nothing else, however there are others who attempt to be helpful but adding extra information that may not be correct which can be difficult to get corrected. 

FreeBMD - again, I submit Postem's with what I see on a certificate and nothing more even if I know more, yet some others submit more information and there are no checks or ways to edit a previous entry.

Newspaper articles are very helpful, but sometimes contain inaccuracies. 

Your 'job' as such is to take this information found and fact check it... is this the right record and is the information on it accurate, and does it fit?  It maybe a case that it is the correct record, but a marriage may have the wrong father listed.... which is when you need to ask 'why is this'.  I had this and ended up unravelling a whole different family structure and narrative  because of that one record.

There will be times where you end up thinking you have the right person, only to find out you have been barking up the wrong path.... it happens!

Ancestry and other commercial sites are in the business of selling subscriptions and services so they will always want to make it appeal to a wide range of people.  We live in a world where we want everything now and as a product of that, Ancestry have tried to help this market with their tools.  These tools used correctly can be a massive time saver, but used incorrectly will result in an inaccurate tree.

Family research is difficult and time consuming but can be very rewarding.  There are no shortcuts and a single person can take hours, days, weeks or even years to complete.  Set yourself goals and limits to make your research manageable (IE my rule is siblings of direct ancestor + marriage + children.... then stop unless there is something of particular interest), and dont rush yourself to go back as early as you can as attractive and fun as it sounds to work your way back to 1600/1500/1400 or earlier and verify each generation as best as you can before progressing onto the next generation back.  Seems to have worked well for me but you will find a method that works for you.
Harding/Jones/Walters/Coates in Stoke on Trent
Calderbank/Baxendale/Swift/Massey in Chorley and Standish


Offline Rena

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,917
  • Crown Copyright: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 July 22 23:25 BST (UK) »
You have singled out Ancestry here, however once you start getting 'knee deep' in your research, you will find that there are many more examples where information may not be as accurate as you would like, be it 'user sourced' or official documentation!

Set yourself goals and limits to make your research manageable (IE my rule is siblings of direct ancestor + marriage + children.... then stop unless there is something of particular interest), and dont rush yourself to go back as early as you can as attractive and fun as it sounds to work your way back to 1600/1500/1400 or earlier and verify each generation as best as you can before progressing onto the next generation back.  Seems to have worked well for me but you will find a method that works for you.

I've more or less ceased my research due to poor eyesight  the majority of my early ancestry were born in the UK.  Although I do have modest trees on ancestry dot co I do sometimes receive emails from ancestry dot com informing me that they've found early American ancestors.  Initially I responded to these prompts but the dot com website would automatically divert me to ancestry dot co  8)   

You'll be lucky to find any records as far back as the 1400s unless you find a gateway ancestor, or are already following a titled family.  Parish registers were introduced on 5th Sept 1538 by Thomas Cromwell, the advisor to King Henry VIII after he took a trip around Europe and discovered that other countries did this.

BTW:  I started my research shortly after I learnt that the family had suffered a loss in WWI and I never knew.  I felt so guilty that I started looking for him.  I was given the name of "Uncle Henry".  There wasn't a sign of a "Henry" although there should have been because I'd discovered all of 582 names old/young enough to go to war on census, bmd, etc.  It then dawned on me that Henry was recorded on all census as "William H".  He'd been called up aged 41 and KIA a few months later.   
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

Offline Lola5

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 362
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 July 22 23:27 BST (UK) »
That is why we need the certificates, the handwritten parish records, wills and such.

I used to correct others on ancestry and some were happy to  be corrected and others very insistent that they were correct....even though they had no certs to prove things.

Now i don 't bother.

My research has taken decades of careful  checking and rechecking and has cost a small fortune. I have been helped byfolk who looked up records for me. And solved many puzzles.

It has given  me a great deal of pleasure and sorrow along the way , enlarged my geographical knowledge and  made me very curious and thankful that i had such  kind, brave,  and talented ancestors.
I wish I had listened more, asked more questions  of those who were still alive.

So i would say to beginners....start with what youknow to be true and work slowly  and carefully and   that buying certificates is a must.
Guy, you are spot on with your advice.

Online Erato

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,884
  • Old Powder House, 1703
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #15 on: Monday 04 July 22 02:05 BST (UK) »
If you don't put your tree on Ancestry, you won't get any suggestions.  Just use Ancestry as a useful library.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 73,466
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 July 22 11:26 BST (UK) »
AngelJunction

I think you have been given good advice & suggest you take onboard the comments made when researching your FH.

This subject has been raised many times by others & the same advice given - I would suggest you use the Search facility above to look for those posts - the replies may be of interest to you
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

Offline dawnsh

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 15,545
    • View Profile
Re: Ancestry "Suggested Parent" Feature
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 July 22 12:09 BST (UK) »
This topic has now been locked to prevent repetition of replies.



Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea