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Re: HAEUSLER Ferdinand 1819-1901
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 10 July 22 03:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue and jomcd967.

I think you have solved the mystery of the immigration to South Australia. There are variable listings for the passengers of both ships listed below but merging the information available I believe what I have is correct.

Aboard the Pauline which berthed at Adelaide 27th September 1846 we have

Eldest son Johann Gottlob Haeusler, his wife Anna Elizabeth nee Lindner and their 4 eldest children, Johann Wilhelm, Johann August, Johann Heinrich Friedrich and Johann Gottlieb.

Second son Johann Wilhelm Haeusler, his wife Johanne Eleanor nee Schulze and formerley Klinge  their 3 eldest children, Johann Heinrich Ferdinand, Johanne Louisa (later Mrs Wundersitz), and Johann Gottlieb and 3 of Johanne's children from her first marriage to Johann Wilhelm Klinge,  Johann Wilhelm, Johanne Caroline (later Mrs Hoffmann) and August.

Aboard the Heerjebhoy Patel which departed Bremen 27th June 1846 and arrived Adelaide 29 October we have

Louisa Haeusler nee Knappe widow of Heinrich Wilhelm Haeusler and mother of the children listed above and below.
Her two daughters Johanne Wilhelmine later Mrs Lange and Johanne Karoline later Mrs Heinze
and her two unmarried sons Ferdinand and Johann Friedrich August.

According to one listing there is no official record of passengers for this voyage.

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Re: HAEUSLER Ferdinand 1819-1901
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 10 July 22 03:26 BST (UK) »


I wonder if he sometimes anglicised his name to Frederick? Or if there was also a councillor Frederick Haeusler at Tungkillo? He resigns in 1866
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/41029140?searchTerm=Haeusler

Yes I believe this is the same person as Ferdinand. It says he was leaving the colony - I think he changed his mind. His brother Johann Wilhelm and his family including some of the Klinges moved to Wodonga. Other brothers and/or their family moved to the Wimmera district of Victoria.

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Re: HAEUSLER Ferdinand 1819-1901
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 10 July 22 08:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Dale,

Well I have to say I have not quite got it straight at this point.

So there were brothers to Ferdinand whose parents were HAEUSLER and KNAPP.

You have a record of his marriage and presumably confirmation that his Father matches the assumed  brothers, but there is not an arrival record for Ferdinand

On the marriage to Mary GLEESON his father's name is shown? Correct?

He may have used the name Frederick?

He may have remarried after his wife died?

He did not go to Victoria as did some of the brothers, but died in SA.

Can you confirm or expand on these points ;D

Sue
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« Reply #21 on: Friday 15 July 22 07:16 BST (UK) »
According to Reg Butler's "The Quiet Waters By: the Mount Pleasant District 1843-1993", Wilhelm HAEUSLER, born c1813 came to SA 1846 on ship PAULINE, with his wife, the former widow KLINGE nee SCHULZ and their children. Possibly, the family farmed near Blumberg, but moved to Tungkillo, on new farm land at Section 6416. Eventually the HAEUSLERS crossed to Victoria, where they settled near Wodonga. Sons Ferdinand & Gottlieb farmed at Tungkillo and on the Murray Flats, before also moving over the border. This family originated from Ulbersdorf, near Zullichar, Brandenburg, Prussia.

There is also mention of Gottfried HAEUSLER, b. 1824 Nekla Hauland, Posen, Prussia, who settled at Hoffnungsthal, near Lyndoch and eventually Stony Creek between Mount Pleasant and Birdwood. Married Rosine nee MU(E)LLER. He died 1895.

Also suggested Gottlob HAEUSLER with wife Anna Elisabeth nee LINDNER, arrived ship PAULINE in 1846, living at Blumberg and then moved to Tungkillo c1858. Gottlob moved to Victoria with some of his children where he died 1915 at Sunbury, Melbourne, Victoria.
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Re: HAEUSLER Ferdinand 1819-1901
« Reply #22 on: Friday 15 July 22 08:40 BST (UK) »
Answering what I can of your queries Sue

So there were brothers to Ferdinand whose parents were HAEUSLER and KNAPP.

I believe so  - I have listed them all above and below.

You have a record of his marriage and presumably confirmation that his Father matches the assumed  brothers, but there is not an arrival record for Ferdinand

The marriage to Mary Gleeson does not list a father for either party - as is usual for early SA marriages.

On the marriage to Mary GLEESON his father's name is shown? Correct? See above.

He may have used the name Frederick?

I believe this is a typo. All other records of the same event list his name as Ferdinand.

He may have remarried after his wife died?

He remarried Teresa Donovan a widow maiden name O'Flavan in 1888 at the Registry Office in Adelaide. His fathers name is recorded as Christian.

He did not go to Victoria as did some of the brothers, but died in SA.

Correct.

He died in 1901 at Morgan, SA and is buried there.

Here is a listing of his brothers and sisters and their movements in Australia.

1st son: Johann Gottlob (1810-1894) married Anna Elizabeth Lindner in Prussia
She died 1878 Tungkillo, he died 1894 Light Pass

They had 6 children
1. Johann Wilhelm 1833-1922 he married twice, and had children in SA until 1882. By 1902 some of his children by the second marriage were marrying in Victoria and settling in the Wimmera region.
Johann Wilhelm died in Murtoa, as did his second wife.

2. Johann August 1837-1912 stayed in SA, died in Caltowie.
3. Johann Heinrich Ferdinand  1841-1921 stayed in SA, died in Nairne
4. Johann Gottlieb 1845-1914 married in SA and had children here up until 1888. Sometime after this moved to Melton area of Victoria. He died in 1914 at Sunbury.
5. Johann Friedrich died in 1873 in South Australia.
6. Pauline Martha 1852-1919 married Johann Wilhelm Thiele, died South Australia.

2nd son: Johann Wilhelm 1812-1894. He had married a widow Johanne Elenore Klinge nee Schulze in Prussia. Sometime between 1851 and 1867 it appears the whole family including the Klinge children from Johanne's first married moved to Wodonga.

Elder daughter Johanne Wilhelmine 1816- 1869 married Friedrich G Lange in 1847 at Lobethal, shed died in South Australia at Nain.

3rd son: Ferdinand 1819-1901 married twice in South Australia and died at Morgan, SA.
He had 4 children(all with first wife Mary Gleeson), a son also named Ferdinand moved to the Swan Hill area of Victoria sometime after 1890.

4th son: Johannn Friedrich August married in South Australia. With his wife Anna Rosina Hartwich he had 6 children. The family moved to the Warracknabeal area sometime between 1858 and 1876. Anna died in 1886 at Nullan near Minyip and is buried in the Minyip cemetery. JFA died at Bangerang, near Warracknabeal is is buried with his wife.

Younger daughter Johanne Karoline (1826-1904) married Carl F W Heinze in SA and died there at Gnadenfrei.

Dale
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Re: HAEUSLER Ferdinand 1819-1901
« Reply #23 on: Friday 15 July 22 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Dale,
Thanks for your clarifications.
They are a tangled bunch and, as we know, South Australia is not the easiest state for this kind of research.
Sue
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 15 July 22 09:02 BST (UK) »
According to Reg Butler's "The Quiet Waters By: the Mount Pleasant District 1843-1993", Wilhelm HAEUSLER, born c1813 came to SA 1846 on ship PAULINE, with his wife, the former widow KLINGE nee SCHULZ and their children. Possibly, the family farmed near Blumberg, but moved to Tungkillo, on new farm land at Section 6416. Eventually the HAEUSLERS crossed to Victoria, where they settled near Wodonga. Sons Ferdinand & Gottlieb farmed at Tungkillo and on the Murray Flats, before also moving over the border. This family originated from Ulbersdorf, near Zullichar, Brandenburg, Prussia.

There is also mention of Gottfried HAEUSLER, b. 1824 Nekla Hauland, Posen, Prussia, who settled at Hoffnungsthal, near Lyndoch and eventually Stony Creek between Mount Pleasant and Birdwood. Married Rosine nee MU(E)LLER. He died 1895.

Also suggested Gottlob HAEUSLER with wife Anna Elisabeth nee LINDNER, arrived ship PAULINE in 1846, living at Blumberg and then moved to Tungkillo c1858. Gottlob moved to Victoria with some of his children where he died 1915 at Sunbury, Melbourne, Victoria.

Thanks PEECEEBEE

Wilhelm and Gottlob were brothers - Gottfried is a different family.

Gottlob who I call Johann Gottlob died 1894 at Light Pass, South Australia. It is his son Johann Gottlieb who died at Sunbury on the 8th December 1914.

Dale
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