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Re: Looking for Anne Healy, Ireland to Australia 1850s
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 July 22 13:25 BST (UK) »
There is not enough to work with here.

Do you have a birth/baptism certificate, marriage certificate for any of the children?

Can you give some information about the BURKE - HEALY story.

They married in Adelaide and died in Adelaide.

They did not go farming so what did they do.....manage a business.....do unskilled work.......what?

Were they involved in community activities.......clubs, organisations, fund-raising....?

Where they active members of their church community?  National organisations eg  Hibernian / Caledonian Society?

Did they feature in the newspaper for civil offences.....aggressive behaviour etc. 

What happened to the children....sons did trades?....the girls married as teenagers or as older eg 25 years.   Were the children educated beyond the standards of the times....aspirational family?

What did their life in Adelaide look life?



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Re: Looking for Anne Healy, Ireland to Australia 1850s
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 July 22 02:07 BST (UK) »
Wish I had more information.. it’s not through lack of trying!
Patrick’s death certificate lists his occupation as farmer. A funeral notice says he was a brother in the IOOF. That’s all I know about him.
None of the children’s births were registered, and I haven’t had any luck getting any baptism records from the church.. do I need to slip them some $?

 - Daughter Alice married Thomas O’Brien in 1888 at St Patrick’s, Adelaide, aged 25.. they were dairy farmers.
 - Daughter Johanna married Henry Smith, labourer, in 1884 at Marion, aged 26
 - Daughter Mary didn’t marry
 - Son James must’ve died as an infant, as the name was re-used
 - Son James Patrick was a bootmaker and petty thief who did a few stints in the clink before disappearing off the radar
 - Son Patrick J married (I assume, but can’t find ANY record) Annie Gooley and had 10 kids, firstly in SA’s mid north, before settling in Adelaide. He was variously a labourer, a bullock drover, and a salaried horse racing tipster.
His death record at Little Sisters of the Poor has his mother as MARY Healy.
Not sure what to make of that..
I have DNA matches with descendants of Alice and Patrick Jnr.
Really just clutching at straws now 😕


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Re: Looking for Anne Healy, Ireland to Australia 1850s
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 July 22 09:31 BST (UK) »
1     Are you able to attach the marriage certificate please
Or if not
What is West Terrace?  Is it the name of a church? or location of a registry office?
What was the actual date of the marriage
what were the occupations of the parties?
Was there no requirement to note the fathers' names on the certificate
Have you researched the witnesses?  What are their occupations? 

2 Death Certificate
Some death certs have a requirement to list place of birth
how long in the colony
ages of children still alive at time of death

3   Name
I see the name of the husband is written as Bourk at one stage
Is this the only time it is written this way?

ETA

This is a useful site that shows what is included in SA BDM certificates and the date that this requirement was inserted

https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/family-and-community/births-deaths-and-marriages/family-research

From 1857 there were some extra features
trade
residence
father's name (you've given this as James Healy)

I still think it would be easiest if you attached a copy of the actual marriage certificate. 




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Re: Looking for Anne Healy, Ireland to Australia 1850s
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 July 22 05:12 BST (UK) »
Hope these attachments work.

When they say West Tce, I assume they mean St Patrick’s on West Tce..
I hadn’t thought to look up the witnesses, thats a great tip.. but after a good Trove search, there’s not any clues there that I could see.

DEATH CERTIFICATE TRANSCRIPTION
WHEN DIED – OCTOBER 8TH 1885
NAME & SURNAME – PATRICK BOURKE
SEX – MALE
AGE – 49
RANK OR PROFESSION – FARMER – MARION
USUAL RESIDENCE – MARION ROAD
COD – PROSTATIS DIBILITY
PLACE OF DEATH – MARION ROAD
PKT 94   7/15

Re name spelling, it seems to flip between Bourke and Burke mostly, but has turned up as Bourk and even Burk!