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Missing before 1901
« on: Thursday 21 July 22 08:18 BST (UK) »
Help please. I am trying to find my great grandfather prior to 1901 census.  He was Alfred bates born around 1st or 3rd
August 1880 in hillingdon and married gt grandma Alice selina Poole in 1909 giving age as 26 father Fred bates gentleman.  I can locate alfred on census records from 1901 onwards untik his death in 1935 but not before and cannot find a birth record for him.  I am just wondering if he could be illegitimate as I have found an Alfred paine born 4th aug 1879 Uxbridge
Any help greatly appreciated and thanks in advance

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 July 22 08:47 BST (UK) »
Who were the witnesses to the marriage?
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 July 22 08:48 BST (UK) »
The witnesses were Alice's family

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 July 22 08:54 BST (UK) »
1909 - 26 = 1883
1901 - 20 = 1881
1911 - 29 = 1882
1921 free look he is born 1880
1936 -  54 = 1881

So why do you think he was definitely born 1880?
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)


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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 July 22 08:58 BST (UK) »
I was always told he was born about 1881 and that is the date in his grave. 1921 obviously gives year as 1880. I have previously contacted a church who had record of an Alfred bates born aug 1879 parents Alfred and Eliza which I wondered if this could be him

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 July 22 11:33 BST (UK) »
What birthplace does yours have on census?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 July 22 11:35 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out the Alfred William Bates birth registered Jun 1880 Holborn?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 July 22 11:37 BST (UK) »
There's an Alfred Bates born Hoxton age 19 on the military deserters list in 1900 - what occupation does yours have?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Missing before 1901
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 July 22 11:43 BST (UK) »
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I have previously contacted a church who had record of an Alfred bates born aug 1879 parents Alfred and Eliza which I wondered if this could be him

I think that one is still with his parents in 1901.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos