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HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« on: Thursday 28 July 22 20:48 BST (UK) »
I am searching for the death and burial of Ellen Clarke, nee Gates. born 23 Mar 1891 at Bridgham, Norfolk.Her parents were George Gates (1856-1939)  and Emma Elizabeth Clarke (1861-1930). Her husband was Wallace Clarke (1888-1969)a soldier. They married on 18 Nov 1913 at St. Marylebone Register Office. On 8 Feb 1914 she was admitted into St. Marylebone Workhouse. (Entry note suggests destitution and/or insanity!) Wallace and Ellen went on to have had two children. Freda Mabel Clarke (b. 13.04.1917) and Jack Kenneth Clarke (known as John) (b.23.05.1919). We believe Ellen was put into an asylum in late 1919 or early 1920 possibly as a result of Post Natal Depression/insanity. We do not know which asylum. Her children, Freda and Jack went to live with their grandparents in Hinderclay, Suffolk. That is the last we know of Ellen Clarke. I am searching for the death date and burial place if possible. Once again, any help will be most gratefully accepted.

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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 July 22 21:26 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for her on the 1921 census?

Is she on the 1939 register?

Unfortunately - a very common name  & if she died before 1969  - her full birthdate will not be shown on any death reg
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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 July 22 21:33 BST (UK) »
I am searching for the death and burial of Ellen Clarke, nee Gates. born 23 Mar 1891 at Bridgham, Norfolk.
Her husband was Wallace Clarke (1888-1969)a soldier. They married on 18 Nov 1913 at St. Marylebone Register Office. On 8 Feb 1914 she was admitted into St. Marylebone Workhouse. (Entry note suggests destitution and/or insanity!) Wallace and Ellen went on to have had two children. Freda Mabel Clarke (b. 13.04.1917) and Jack Kenneth Clarke (known as John) (b.23.05.1919). We believe Ellen was put into an asylum in late 1919 or early 1920
What info. do you have about Wallace?
Did he re-marry &/or was he a widower when he died?

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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 July 22 21:42 BST (UK) »
You say Wallace died 1969 - where?  The only Wallace Clarke death matching his birthyear in the London area was 1957 Harrow.  The only 1969 death was Wallace James Clarke in Devon

Wallace was born Dec qtr 1887 per freebmd.  Would suggest you have a look at the 1939 entry for Wallace Clarke b 1887 & living in Harrow.  May answer some questions
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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 July 22 21:47 BST (UK) »
On the 1921 census Ellen Clarke 1891, Freda & Jack are with George & Emma Elizabeth Gates in Stowlangtoft. Wallace is not with them.

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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 July 22 21:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you indeed for that .  I will buy that census record. I suppose as a soldier, Wallace may have been away on duty? or abandoned the family of course? There is an Ellen Gates who died in Norwich in 1946 that may be her, but I can't find her on 1939 census.

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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 July 22 21:55 BST (UK) »
Reply 3 above refers - Jubilee Janetta Young was b 1897 Bucks & married Albert R Dilley in Hampstead in 1916

She died 1975 Herts - as Dilley
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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 July 22 22:00 BST (UK) »
1939 Register has Ellen Clarke b 1889 as a patient in Suffolk and there is this death
Ellen Clarke
Sep 1970 Deben
dob 23/3/1889

AMENDED Sorry

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Re: HELP! Death date and burial place of Ellen CLARKE, nee GATES.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 July 22 22:02 BST (UK) »
There is an Ellen Gates who died in Norwich in 1946 that may be her, but I can't find her on 1939 census.

P.S. There wasn't a census in 1939.
Were you looking at the 1939 National Register, by any chance?


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