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Offline MichelleDean

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Freedom Papers
« on: Friday 29 July 22 00:17 BST (UK) »
From Ancestry , I have found the indenture papers for Charles Dean 1794 but cannot find the Admission Papers of Charles Dean 1801 and not sure where else to research

Son Charles Dean freedom paper 1841  records father admission as 1801
Indenture Papers record father name as Dean , Yeoman New Windsor. I can't decipher first name of father ?

Charles Dean SNR died 1832. Not sure birth date or parents names.

 

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Re: Freedom Papers
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat!

You posted this a few months ago, but I was scrolling through the beginners board to see if I could help anyone and found your post. Hopefully, now this has been bumped up to the main board, you will get some more responses.

According to his will extract on FindMyPast, Charles Dean Sr., poultry salesman of Newgate Street, died on 31st October 1832. He died a wealthy man, with his estate being valued at around £4500.
If you haven't seen it, his will can be downloaded for free from here:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D259391

Unfortunately, I cannot see any mention of relatives other than his wife and children.

There is a burial of a Charles Dean, aged 57, abode: Islington, in St Faith Under St Paul (very close to Newgate Street) on 8th November 1832. His age at death gives an approximate birth year of 1775.

Charles Dean married Mary Elizabeth Hatton on 28th June 1807 in St Clement Danes. The witnesses were Thomas Hutton (presumably Mary's brother, who is also mentioned in Charles' will) and John Townsend. I can see Mary on the 1841 census, aged ~55, with her children: Charles (aged ~24, a salesman), Edmund (aged ~22), Alfred (aged ~20, a tailor) and Henry (aged ~18). They are still living in Newgate Street.

Back to Charles Sr., I don't think there is a father's name on the indenture papers; it looks like it has been left blank.

I cannot find a baptism for Charles in New Windsor; I looked at the Berkshire Wills Index to see if I could find a Dean, yeoman, of New Windsor, but the only Dean was Arthur, butcher of New Windsor, who died in 1713.

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
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Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
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Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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Re: Freedom Papers
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 20:10 GMT (UK) »
At the bottom of the papers it says the father's name is

Charles Dean
citizen and poulter of London....... 

ETA Welcome from me too.   :)

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Re: Freedom Papers
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 November 22 20:32 GMT (UK) »
LMA seem to have the archives for The Butchers Company.
https://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/LMA_OPAC/web_detail/REFD+CLC~2FL~2FBI?SESSIONSEARCH

There's nothing on The worshipful Company of Butchers website about archives, but you could always try and contact them if all else fails.
https://www.butchershall.com/wcb/home
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Freedom Papers
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 November 22 16:23 GMT (UK) »
At the bottom of the papers it says the father's name is

Charles Dean
citizen and poulter of London....... 

ETA Welcome from me too.   :)

I think she is referring to the indenture papers of Charles Sr. in 1794, which give Charles' father as "Dean, yeoman, of New Windsor, Berkshire", but do not provide a forename (see snippet below).
The admission papers of Charles' son (which Michelle attached) state that Charles Sr. was admitted in 1801, but the record of this is seemingly not online.

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset