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Re: Acrobats
« Reply #18 on: Monday 01 August 22 17:18 BST (UK) »
Oh, my gosh, everyone.  Thank you so much for all your links, help and interest.  I'm in awe :)!

It's absolutely fascinating and I'm thrilled to find that there might finally be answer to a bit of a family mystery. 

I found James Henry Cragg listed in the 1921 census as being an out-of-work theatrical entertainer living with a brother (Alfred), Alfred's wife, Florence and their daughter Lalla who is also listed as being an out-of-work theatrical entertainer.  No mention of Matilda (though JHC is listed as still being married).  My grandfather, John Craig, we know, was in the British Indian Army from 1920 onwards so was out of the country for this census.

I had spent a lot of time wondering about why GP had changed his name but now it seems that he was known as Cragg from at least the age of 6 and it's not much of a step from there to Craig.  He always struck me (although he was very old at the time so maybe not surprising) as a bit straight-laced and not a lot of fun.  He was pretty much a career soldier going from WWI service into the Indian Army and then volunteering again (despite being in his 50's by then) for WWII working in logistics.

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 01 August 22 17:56 BST (UK) »
Apologies if this has been posted - I can’t see it.

Marriage 1910 Lambeth

John W Cragg and Amy L Bowen are on the same page.
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« Reply #21 on: Monday 01 August 22 21:25 BST (UK) »
Just in case some numbers might help:

Sunday Sun (Newcastle) 28 August 1921
A reporter interviewed John W. Cragg, "leader of the famous Craggs"
at his Kennington Road gymnasium, and in this interview asked about family:

He has been married four times.
He is the father of 24 children, of whom 13 are living.
His oldest child is 58; his youngest 3.
He is great-grandfather to 18 children.


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Re: Acrobats
« Reply #22 on: Monday 01 August 22 21:32 BST (UK) »
Busy bloke!!

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 02 August 22 04:43 BST (UK) »
It does seem a bit odd he would change to Craig, when his birth certificate would have said Williams, and also his baptism was as Williams.  So he had that to fall back on if he didn’t want to be a Cragg.

What name did he marry under? When and who did he marry?

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 02 August 22 09:02 BST (UK) »
He married Kathleen Lavender in 1916 in Kingston, Surrey.

The marriage certificate says "John Henry Williams (otherwise Craig)", so he was going under both names at the time.  I can well imagine my gran saying that she wasn't going to marry a Cragg!  She was a bit like that, from what I remember.

Certainly, she and their daughters were always Craig and his death certificate has Craig as his surname - I'd be surprised if mum knew about the Williams/Cragg thing.

I also don't know which name he'd have used to enlist in the army - presumably Williams as that came first on the marriage certificate.  I've requested his military record, but the lead time is very long (a year or so) so I won't get it for a while.  I don't know how complete that will be as I don't know how much linkage there is between his three stints and whether he informed them of his change of name.

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 02 August 22 11:16 BST (UK) »
That’s  OK then.

What a great family to suddenly come across.  They are going to keep you busy for a while. Especially tracking down 24 children!

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 02 August 22 11:21 BST (UK) »
Ancestry shows a Fold3 record (subscription) for:
John Henry Craig birthdate 24th April 1894
Military Year 1922
Captain, Indian Army.

Would that be him?
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