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Offline IreneK

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Brick wall
« on: Monday 01 August 22 21:19 BST (UK) »
Looking for a Edward Padden b.1826 Mayo
so Im told. occ Baker
H has at least one child Bridget Padden b.1852 mayo
At some time the came to UK, as Bridget married twice and on both certs states father deceased
Bridget mar, James Nesden  1873 Wakefield Yorkshire UK
Bridget mar. 1890. Martin O Malley also Wakefield
can not find Bridget or her father on 1861 census uk
so thinking she is still in Ireland
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 00:00 BST (UK) »
I often check the 1901/1911 Ireland Census and work back from there.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

You don't say where in Co Mayo Bridget/Edawrd are from.

Here is a ink to an Edward Padden on the 1901 Irish Census aged 60 so born 1839 apx......from Shanaghy Belmullet.  May be a sibling of Bridget?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Belmullet/Shanaghy/1580345/


Do the two marriage certificates confirm that Edward was  in the UK though deceased.

What makes you think that Bridget and Edward both came to the UK?

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 August 22 21:27 BST (UK) »
Bridget mar,  x 2 and on both states her farther deceased
bridgets 1st  m. James Nesden or Nesdel 1873 Wakefield Uk
2nd m. Martin O' Malley 1890 Wakefield.
I have not been able to find Bridget or her father together on any census
thought I might find on the UK 1861, but if Edward still in Ireland
I have no idea where in Ireland except Mayo, I also have a second cousin looking he thinks it might be Bellmullet
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 August 22 19:22 BST (UK) »

H has at least one child Bridget Padden b.1852 mayo
At some time the came to UK, as Bridget married twice and on both certs states father deceased
Bridget mar, James Nesden  1873 Wakefield Yorkshire UK
Bridget mar. 1890. Martin O Malley also Wakefield
can not find Bridget or her father on 1861 census uk
so thinking she is still in Ireland

Have you found Edward or Bridget on 1871 England census?
Have you looked for death registrations for Edward in England and Ireland up to 1873? Registration of deaths began in Ireland in 1864.
Were any of Bridget's relatives witness to her weddings?
Malley/O'Malley is common in Mayo.
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 August 22 19:30 BST (UK) »
2 death registrations in Mayo 1864-1873 for men named Edward Pad(d)en, Belmullet and Killala.
Where did you get 1826 for Edward's year of birth from?
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 August 22 20:20 BST (UK) »
1891 census Bridget with her 2nd husband + children from both her marriages.
Also in household:
 Eliza Banks, mother-in-law to head, age 55, born Ireland, estimated year of birth 1836
 Henry Banks brother-in-law to head, age 17, born Staffordshire, estimated birth year 1874
Bridget's husband also had Staffordshire as his birthplace.
Do you know if Eliza Banks was Bridget's mother or her stepmother? Alternatively, "mother-in-law" and "brother-in-law" may have meant stepmother and step-brother, in which case they may have been relatives of Bridget's husband.

1881 census James Nesden, Bridget's husband, was also born in Ireland.

Was 1852 for Bridget's year of birth estimated from census returns? She subtracted a couple of years from her age on 1891 census, perhaps because her 2nd husband was a decade her junior.
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 August 22 21:05 BST (UK) »
thank you every one
Edward had died before Bridgets first wedding
so he must have died sometime before 1873 in Ireland ?
I looked on 1861 census for UK but can not find the together
I am trying to work out Eliza Banks who she was

Thank you all again for the info

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 August 22 22:01 BST (UK) »
Have you found baptisms for Bridget's children? Were any of her relatives godparents?
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 August 22 15:53 BST (UK) »
HO I never gave that a thought, Bridget had x 2 husbands
So blinkered trying to find Bridget and her Father
Thank you
 will have Look
Good Job there are people like you to give us advice
Irene