GRANTHAM, Looking for any additional information on Thomas Grantham Gould b. 1

[SonofaSaunders]

Looking for any  additional information on Thomas Grantham Gould b. 1828 & Sarah Barss b. 1828- d. 1830

  I have no idea of what town or location  they were in in  England, but given  that two people with different surnames  had a child and  gave him the last name of Grantham,
  I  guessing that maybe they  gave him the last name of the town where they lived, or the fathers' middle name


H]Thomas was born in 1828- d. ?
W]Sarah was born 1830,  d, 1896

Sarah and Thomas had 1 child that I know of,

H] Joseph Grantham, (b. Jan 2.1857, Settled in St. Thomas Ontario,  Was a Brakeman on the Railroad ( 1891 Census)
 d. 1930 in Hinsdale Illinois USA
W] Margaret Ashworth. (b.1584- d. 1892

 They had 8 children__> Mary Margaret , 1886-1958 [ 1891 census], age 3 # 1378712
                        John Richard, 1185-1941   [1891 census] , age 6 # 1378711
                       Charles, 1888-1953         [1891 census] , age 3 #1378713
                       Harriet, 1880-?            [1891 Census] , age 10, #1378709
                       Esther Ann, 1878-1936,     [1891 Census] ,age 13 #1378708]
                       Edith, 1890- ?             [1891 census] , age 1 #1378714
                       Margaret, 1882-1882         
                       Thomas Job, 1883-1926.     [ 1891 Census], age7 #1378710

 At some point Joseph Grantham and family  immigrated to Upper Canada Or the American colonies/ U.S.A.
Perhaps just Thomas Job Grantham family ended up in London Ontario Canada, and got married.


H]Thomas Job 1883-1926 (b. London Ontario Can. d. St Thomas Ont.) Buried in St.Thomas Cemetery, No monument
W] Isabella Charlotte McKenzie. 1884-1963 ( b. Dresden Ontario Can.) Buried Maple leaf Cemetery, Chatham Ont,  Monument
Childen___> Colin McKenzie ,b. 1916-d. 1977 London Ontario Can.
          > Charlotte Catherine Grantham (b. 1920  d. Jan 1925 St.Thomas Ont.) Buried St. Thomas Cemetery, No Monument


H] Colin McKenzie Grantham ,b. 1916-d. 1977 London Ontario Can., Buried Maple Leaf Cemetery, Chatham Ontario, Monument
W] Married  Ethel  Marion Mattimore,  b. 1912-d.1986 London Ontario Can.   buried Maple Leaf Cemetery, Chatham Ont, Monument
Children___>, Don, Tom , John ( Buck), Brian, Janet

H]Thomas Lindsay Grantham , b. 1939 Chatham Ontario Ca.
W] Loise Beverly Saunders,  b. 1940-d. 1985   Buried Maple Leaf Cemetery Chatham Ont. Monument
Children___> Colin James, Patricia Darlene, Douglas Thomas, Mary Jayne

H] Douglas Thomas Grantham, Dec 16.1962- , born > Chatham Ontario ( Myself)
W] Heather June Currie, June 13.1962 , born >Collingwood Ontario
Children ___> Douglas McKenzie Bissett,  Aug 05.1987, born > London Ontario

[CaroleW]

Hi

What do all the HJ/WJ stand for please?

You refer to Thomas Grantham GOULD

had a child and  gave him the last name of Grantham,

Do you mean Joseph's second christian name was Grantham or he used the surname Grantham?

There are several Joseph Grantham births but no Joseph Grantham Gould

& Sarah Barss b. 1828- d. 1830

Can you confirm Sarah's surname?

How do you know when Thomas & Sarah were born - or is it a guess?

[Neale1961]

Margaret ASHWORTH born 1854 Haslingden Lancashire – [parents Richard and Ellen]

Margaret married Job Grantham GOULD 21st Aug 1877 in Burbage Derbyshire. Margaret was a widow, previously married to HUGHES
Marriage record shows:-
Job, a line drawer – his father Thomas GOULD a line drawer
Margaret – her father Richard ASHWORTH a coachman

Immigration in Oct 1879 onboard “CIRCASSIAN” from Liverpool to Canada:- Job & Margaret GOULD with first child Esther Ann GOULD who was born 1878 in Chapel-en-le-Firth, Derbyshire

[Neale1961]

Job GRANTHAM GOULD born Worcester 1857 to parents Thomas GOULD aka Thomas GRANTHAM and Esther HILLBURN
His birth registration:
   GRANTHAM, JOB                      Mother's maiden name: HILLBURN 
   GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in WORCESTER  Volume 06C  Page 307


His parents were married 30 July 1864 Albury Oxfordshire
Thomas GRANTHAM was 36 a railway labourer; his father James GRANTHAM a plasterer
Esther HILLBURN was 29 a spinster; her father Job HILLBURN a labourer
 
The surname appears to alternate between GOULD  and GRANTHAM in the census records, and in the children's birth registration. Looking at the family history in much greater detail might reveal why.

Thomas and Esther had the following children:
•   Job Grantham Gould 1857 emigrated to Canada
•   Esther Ann 1859
•   George 1862
•   Charles 1865
•   John 1869
•   James 1871
•   Mary 1873

Thomas GRANTHAM died 1885 in Chapel-en-le-Firth, Derbyshire. Age 58
Esther Grantham GOULD died 1878 in Chapel-en-le-Firth, Derbyshire. age 42

[Neale1961]

Thomas GRANTHAM was born in Kidlington Oxfordshire and baptised 25 Nov 1827 to parents James GRANTHAM (a plasterer)  and Martha.

James GRANTHAM (widower) and Martha SMITH (a widow from Wooton) were married 4 Mar 1822 Kidlington Oxfordshire
James and Martha had the following issue: Matilda 1822, Anne 1824, Thomas 1827, John 1830

James GRANTHAM was baptised 13 Feb 1785 Wooton Oxfordshire to parents Thomas and Elizabeth. James died in 1840
His first marriage was in 1804 to Anne EDENS (she died before 1822).
His second wife, Martha was born about 1789 and died 1878.

[SonofaSaunders]

Hi all.

All birth and Death dates are  from what family records that I have as well as from cemetery markers, Census Records etc.


First, H= husband / W = wife.     [ Not HJ/WJ ]
 
 There are some referrals of Thomas Grantham  Gould, and Thomas Gould Grantham  b. 1828 d. ?, which is where   some confusion in.
Sarah Sophia Barss, b. 1830 d. 1896,  is confirmed  to  be accurate


Josephs Surname was given as Grantham in what Census  Records I was able to dig up.  Joseph  Settled in St. Thomas Ontario ( Upper Canada) and married Margaret Ashworth.
 Their Children and all dates are correct.

 Thomas Job Grantham is my Great Grandfather, Born in  Ontario, and is buried in  St. Thomas Ontario Cemetery, as is their daughter Charlotte Catherine.
Thomas's wife Isabella Charlotte McKenzie ( Grantham) - and Son Colin McKenzie Grantham  Ethel are interred in  Maple Leaf Cemetery, Chatham Ontario

[rosie99]

First, H= husband / W = wife.     [ Not HJ/WJ ]
 

Thank you.  I think the confusion arose as you have H] and W] - a bracket which looks like a J 

[Neale1961]

Hello Douglas, It seems you have missed replies #2, #3 and #4 which give you information regarding the English ancestry of your GRANTHAM family.

There are numerous problems / errors in the information you supplied in your opening post. Here are just a few ….

W] Margaret Ashworth. (b.1584- d. 1892

A most remarkable woman living to over 300 years! 

All birth and Death dates are  from what family records that I have as well as from cemetery markers, Census Records etc.
Sarah Sophia Barss, b. 1830 d. 1896,  is confirmed  to  be accurate

THIS PERSON HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION WITH YOUR FAMILY.
Sophia BARSS (BEARSE) was born in Nova Scotia and died in Michigan.
In 1853 Nova Scotia she married William J CRECINE, and had three children.
In 1861 Ontario she married Joseph Hickson GRANTHAM junior (born 1836 Kent England), and had four more children.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7D-BS5C-F?i=40&cc=2568642&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2CB-H2X5

H] Joseph Grantham, (b. Jan 2.1857; d. 1930 in Hinsdale Illinois USA

Yes Job GRANTHAM (not Joseph) died in 1930 in DuPage Illinois, but he is buried (where he was living) in Elgin County, Ontario, Canada
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/235979962/job-grantham

[Neale1961]

There are a great many records relating to your GRANTHAM family on FamilySearch. These are free to access once you have registered.
 https://www.familysearch.org/en/

I recommend these records as a starting point for you.

1871 England census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBX8-91N

1881 Canada census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVDK-F6F

1891 Canada census https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148135-00533

Job GRANTHAM 2nd marriage 1895 to Mary Ann LONEY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMKZ-8QK

1901 Canada census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH2V-5JF

1911 Canada census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9T-SHJV

1921 Canada census https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002921492