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Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made? Solved.
« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:27 BST (UK) »
My Great Aunt Gweneth born 1893 in Hereford - 12th and last child of Joseph and Elizabeth Ann (ne Manthorpe).
Birth March Q Vol 6a Page 492a
She is shown on 1901 aged 7 with the family - RG13 piece 2428 folio 76 page 3
Both parents have died by 1907
There is no sign of her on 1911, I have checked all living siblings and she is not with them.

BUT
In 1913 a Gwyneth Sockett marries a Francis Daw
This lady in 1939 gives her dob as ?/May/1893.
I cannot find a birth for a Gwyneth Sockett that year.

Can I safely assume that they are one and the same?

Any thoughts?
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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:40 BST (UK) »
SOCKETT, GWENETH       mmn MANTHORPE 
GRO Reference: 1893  Sept Quarter in HEREFORD  Volume 06A  Page 492  Occasional Copy: A

Probably a late registration
 
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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:51 BST (UK) »
She's transcribed as Gwynoth Pockett in 1911. She's living as a domestic servant in Cousldon Surrey in the home of Arthur and Esther Louisa Lindley.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW8N-F5Q
Bolingbroke (Norfolk & Suffolk) Chittleburgh (Yorkshire & Norfolk) Dawson (Essex & Hertfordshire) Donkin (Newcastle & Durham) Gregg (Lancashire & Cumbria) Johnson (Lancashire) Spalding (Norfolk) Stannard - (Essex & Norfolk)

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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:54 BST (UK) »
Death reg for Gwyneth Daw 1968 Herefordshire, birth c1894.
Bolingbroke (Norfolk & Suffolk) Chittleburgh (Yorkshire & Norfolk) Dawson (Essex & Hertfordshire) Donkin (Newcastle & Durham) Gregg (Lancashire & Cumbria) Johnson (Lancashire) Spalding (Norfolk) Stannard - (Essex & Norfolk)


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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:54 BST (UK) »
1921 free index

Gwyneth, Francis, Gertrud and 2 others are on this record, in parish of St Owen, Hereford

Gwyneth Daw b Hereford 1893

Unusual surname Sockett so likely same.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 16:55 BST (UK) »
Birth
March 1914 Hereford
Gertrude Gwyneth Daw
mmn Sockett

1921 census in St Owen parish
Gwyneth Daw 1893 Herefordshire and Francis Daw 1887 and three Daw/Sockett children

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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 17:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your help in clearing up this mystery.
It looks like Gweneth and Gwyneth are the same person.
Rosie99
Late registration as you say.

Bethanyyd96
I have sent an error correction to FindMyPast.

Cas
Unusual surname but they didn't have much imagination when it came to forenames.
I have 4 named John born in the same quarter 2 with parents with the same names.  ::)

Comberton
I made  a note of this family. By 1939 there were 5 children.

Thank you all once again
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made? Solved.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 18:13 BST (UK) »
Death reg for Gwyneth Daw 1968 Herefordshire, birth c1894.

Probate incase you have not seen it

Name:   Gwyneth Daw
Death Date:   10 Mar 1968
Death Place:   49 Portfield Street, Hereford
Probate Date:   14 Apr 1969
Probate Registry:   Oxford

1911 census transcribed correctly for name on Anc. - Gwyneth Sockett

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Gweneth Sockett - mystery. Can an assumption be made? Solved.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 August 22 18:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cas

Diolch yn fawr
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Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk