trying to find John Yates

[Ladyhawk]

Mary Ann White re-marries a Quebec, Canada man called Walter Herbert Beil or Bell in 1875 she is living in Bacup, Lancashire until she dies sometime between 1900 - 1910

Do you have Mary Ann's marriage certificate to Walton, if so, what is Walton's father's name?

The reason I ask is this

This appears to be the same Walton Herbert Bell from 1881 census but his pob is not CANADA

1871 census Piece:   4147Folio:   23 Page number:   40

WALTON Herbert BELL occ book keeper pob Leeds Yorkshire living in Burnley Lancashire (his first name transcribed on Anc*y as Walter)

Head Maria BELL 61 wid.,
Dau Maria Ann Bell 24
Albert Preston Bell 2 Gd’son (GRO indexes birth entry 1869 no mmn)
John Harling Bell 2 Gd’son          ditto              ditto           ditto

1861 Piece:   3919 Folio:   9. Page number:   12
John BELL   62   Head
Maria    51   Wife
WALTON    19   Son, Leeds, Pupil Teacher National School
Mary H    17   Daughter
Maria A    14   Daughter
   
Walton Bell  Birth :   17 Sep 1841 Baptism 11 Oct 1841 St Peter Leeds
Father:   John Bell, occ. Sergeant in the 1st Royal Dragoons
Mother:   Maria, abode Barracks

[Ladyhawk]

1851 census their surname has been transcribed as BETT on Anc*y 

Piece:   2310 Folio:   339 Page Number:   53

John BELL   32 Chelsea Pensioner
Maria 41
WALTON  9 Leeds
Mary H    7
Maria    5
John    10 Mo
Samuel lodger   41
Richard lodger   14

[SummerCrush]

Mary Ann White re-marries a Quebec, Canada man called Walter Herbert Beil or Bell in 1875 she is living in Bacup, Lancashire until she dies sometime between 1900 - 1910

Do you have Mary Ann's marriage certificate to Walton, if so, what is Walton's father's name?

The reason I ask is this

This appears to be the same Walton Herbert Bell from 1881 census but his pob is not CANADA

1871 census Piece:   4147Folio:   23 Page number:   40

WALTON Herbert BELL occ book keeper pob Leeds Yorkshire living in Burnley Lancashire (his first name transcribed on Anc*y as Walter)

Head Maria BELL 61 wid.,
Dau Maria Ann Bell 24
Albert Preston Bell 2 Gd’son (GRO indexes birth entry 1869 no mmn)
John Harling Bell 2 Gd’son          ditto              ditto           ditto

1861 Piece:   3919 Folio:   9. Page number:   12
John BELL   62   Head
Maria    51   Wife
WALTON    19   Son, Leeds, Pupil Teacher National School
Mary H    17   Daughter
Maria A    14   Daughter
   
Walton Bell  Birth :   17 Sep 1841 Baptism 11 Oct 1841 St Peter Leeds
Father:   John Bell, occ. Sergeant in the 1st Royal Dragoons
Mother:   Maria, abode Barracks

Walter's father is listed as John Bell on the wedding certificate and his job profession is listed as coal miner

[SummerCrush]

sorry I need to apologise as I have some of my facts incorrect:

I've just re-checked the marriage certificate between John Yates and Mary Ann White and John is listed as a Clerk for his Job profession but there is Zero Job Profession listed for his wife Mary Ann White

but on Edward John Yates Birth Certificate John Yates is listed as deceased and his job profession is listed as Sergeant 6th foot. Edward John Yates was baptised in Blackburn, Lancashire on 17th March 1872

on the marriage certificate for Edward John Yates and Mary Jane Aykroyd married at Rawtenstall Wesleyan Chapel in Haslingden, Lancashire back on 25th December 1896 John Yates{Edward's Dad John Yates is listed as deceased and his job profession is listed as ''Soldier Staff Sergeant''}

[Ladyhawk]

and Edward's father John's occupation on his baptism record is CLERK

[Ladyhawk]

sorry I need to apologise as I have some of my facts incorrect:

I've just re-checked the marriage certificate between John Yates and Mary Ann White and John is listed as a Clerk for his Job profession but there is Zero Job Profession listed for his wife Mary Ann White

Have added a snippet of m/c

[Ladyhawk]

Walter's father is listed as John Bell on the wedding certificate and his job profession is listed as coal miner

His he named as WaltON or WaltER Herbert on m/c,
what address did he give and what was his occupation?

The 1871 census name is definitely WaltON Herbert Bell, book keeper - see added snippet

[SummerCrush]

Walter Herbert Bell and Mary Ann White had 3 children together a son called Cecil Percy Beil born 9th April 1879 and he died 21st March 1916 in France and 3 daughters called Maria Beatrice Beil born 1875, Constance born 1918 and May Beil born 1884

Cecil and his wife Mary Jane Alston had 2 children Norman Beil and Irene Beil. Irene married a man called John Shaw and they had 1 daughter who we believe is still alive.

Norman Beil {born 15 Sep 1904 Cornholme, Yorkshire, England and died 1978 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England and he married Hannah Maria Richards {born 01 Dec 1898 Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales and she died 24 Apr 1987 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England} and they had 1 daughter called Dilys Beil {born 01 Oct 1937 Preston, Lancashire, England and she died 10 Dec 2013 Oxfordshire, England}. the guy that Dilys was married to is still alive and there children are still alive so I can't name them.

Beatrice Maria Beil married George Phillips born Abt 1867 Risca, Monmouthshire, Wales and he died about 1924 in Lancashire, England. Maria and George had 2 daughters one called Dora Ivy Phillips {born 01 Nov 1903 Congleton, Cheshire, England and we think died 2000 in Lancashire}, Dora Ivy married Norman K Ford {born 9th January 1900 and died 1957 in Littleborough, Lancashire}. Norman K Ford and Dora had ZERO children. Beatrice and George's other daughter was called Gertrude Phillips {born 10 Aug 1908 Rochdale, Lancashire, England died 1963 in Lancashire}, Gertrude never married and never had children

[SummerCrush]

Walter's father is listed as John Bell on the wedding certificate and his job profession is listed as coal miner

His he named as WaltON or WaltER Herbert on m/c,
what address did he give and what was his occupation?

The 1871 census name is definitely WaltON Herbert Bell, book keeper - see added snippet

we think on the census Walter's surname has been put down wrong as Bell instead of Beil