ELLEN WRIGHT (b 1862/63 in LEEDS)

[Jim Webster]

Maybe asking the impossible with this one as the information I have is very limited but here goes :
Trying to track my wife's great grandmother Ellen Wright from birth in Leeds to her whereabouts on the 1871 and 1881 census' which will hopefully show her parents names.
She married John William Davis (born Birmingham 1862) in 1884 in Sunderland and lived in Sunderland until her death in 1915. Her husband was living in Sunderland in 1881, 3 years before their marriage, and still living in Sunderland with their youngest child (my wife's grandfather) and what would seem to be a new wife on the 1921 census.
As always all help is appreciated.

[mckha489]

Marriage certificate says?

[Jim Webster]

Don't have the original certificate.
FindMyPast transcription only shows John William Davis and Ellen Wright with marriage date Q4/1884
Was hoping I could find info before buying a certificate. Realise I may need to buy her birth certificate as well.
Children's birth transcripts show mmn as Wright so happy I have the correct surname
for Ellen.

[CaroleW]

There is only one Ellen Wright birth on freebmd in Leeds in the timescale given

June qtr 1862 & GRO online shows mmn Armstrong.  Can’t see a marriage in Leeds though
An Ellen Wright aged 27 died June qtr 1862 Leeds

[CaroleW]

In 1891 Ellen’s birthplace is shown as Sunderland but in 1901 & 1911 it is Leeds

[Annette7]

There is only one Ellen Wright birth on freebmd in Leeds in the timescale given

June qtr 1862 & GRO online shows mmn Armstrong.  Can’t see a marriage in Leeds though
An Ellen Wright aged 27 died June qtr 1862 Leeds

Don't think this is your Ellen as an Ellen Wright aged 1 death Sept.qr.1863 Leeds.

Annette

[amondg]

Puzzle re GRO Index
children all registered Sunderland

Mary Ellen 1885  mmn Wright
Edward James 1887  mmn Wright

*Annie 1889  mmn HOWE  died 1889
*Annie Hill 1892  mmn HOWE  (baptized 10 April 1892 daughter of John William Davis and Ellen at Deptford Durham) with family 1901 and 1911

Alice Laura 1893  mmn Wright
John William 1896  mmn Wright
Albert  1898 mmn Wright
Thomas Henry 1900   mmn Wright
Arthur King 1902  mmn Wright
Thomas Morrall 1905  mmn Wright

So who made the slip in registering these 2 girls, was John William Davis mothers maiden Howe or was Ellen's mothers maiden name Howe?

1911 Ellen says married 26 years 9 children 8 living 1 deceased

[jonwarrn]

For what it's worth, 1891 census has Ellen Davis, 28, born Durham Sunderland.
FS just says born County Durham!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WVKT-SW2

*Annie 1889  mmn HOWE  died 1889
*Annie Hill 1892  mmn HOWE  (baptized 10 April 1892 daughter of John William Davis and Ellen at Deptford Durham) with family 1901 and 1911

Again, for what it's worth, I just put it out here!
There are some Wright births in Sunderland, mother's maiden surname Howe.

1871, Bishopwearmouth
George Wright 32 Ships Steward Durham Sherburn House
Mary A Wright 32
Nellie Wright 8
Thomas H Wright 2
John S Wright 1m
Mary A and children born Durham Sunderland

WRIGHT, THOMAS  HENRY     
Mother's Maiden Surname: HOWE 
GRO Reference: 1868  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 467

Except John S doesn't match!
WRIGHT, EDWIN  LOWTHER MILTON    
Mother's Maiden Surname: HOWE 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 551

1881, Bishhopwearmouth
George Wright 41 Grocer Assistant Durham Sherburn
Mary A Wright 43
Thomas H Wright 12
Edwin G Wright 6
Margaret H Wright 5
Mary A and children born Durham Sunderland

WRIGHT, EDWIN  GEORGE     
Mother's Maiden Surname: HOWE 
GRO Reference: 1874  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 651

WRIGHT, MARGARET  HANNAH     
Mother's Maiden Surname: HOWE 
GRO Reference: 1876  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 652

[jonwarrn]

Except John S doesn't match!
WRIGHT, EDWIN  LOWTHER MILTON    
Mother's Maiden Surname: HOWE 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 551

Perhaps they changed their minds about his names when they registered the birth
Edwin LM died age 2.