Emigration from Ireland to Scotland

[Kas234]

Hi
Any advice on any Scottish records that show the town or county of birth for Irish immigrants in Scotland. Census, marriage and death certs only state Ireland and not county.

Having difficulty confirming with Irish birth / marriage  records relying on Name and DOB as both are not reliable.

[Elwyn Soutter]

Sometimes the county of birth appears in the 1911 census

Your other possible option are Poor Law records. If your family claimed under the Scottish Poor Law (because they were in financial difficulties) then the Poor Law officials often compiled a family tree showing where they came from in Ireland and relatives who might be able to support them. Many Irish born folk claimed under the Scottish Poor Law system. You haven’t said where your family settled in Scotland.  If you tell us that, we may be able to advise you which set of Poor Law records to go to.

[aghadowey]

It's really just migration from one part of the U.K. to another.

Sometimes people who had moved to Scotland are listed in Old Age Pension Claims or Ulster Covenant/Declaration.

If you give us a bit more details we might be able to suggest appropriate resources to try.

[Kas234]

Thanks for the suggestions.

FYI migrations from Ireland 1850 to 1890 to mining regions in Nth Lanarkshire Cambuslang / Bothwell area.

Difficulty verify persons against Irish birth / marriage records based on Scotiah records alone.

[Elwyn Soutter]

Poor Law records for the Glasgow and Lanarkshire areas are kept in the Mitchell Library. They will normally do a look up for a small fee. You might want to contact them:

http://www.glasgowlife.org.uk/libraries/the-mitchell-library/archives/collections/poor-law-archives/Pages/default.aspx

[scotmum]

If any of the people you are researching likely married in Ireland but had any children born in Scotland, then the Scottish birth certificates should indicate where and when the parents married.

Without some details to work with, we are limited in how we can help you. Why not pick one person/couple you are stuck on, tell us which records you have found so far for them, and we can try and get you back a bit further?

[shanreagh]

It's really just migration from one part of the U.K. to another.

Sometimes people who had moved to Scotland are listed in Old Age Pension Claims or Ulster Covenant/Declaration.

If you give us a bit more details we might be able to suggest appropriate resources to try.

It's really just migration from one part of the U.K. to another.


I would just call it moving from one part of a country to another part of the same country. Similar migrations/moving occurred in the east/west movement of people in the US, moving to different states in Australia etc.  Then, as now, mostly for better economic opportunities.   

And welcome to Rootschat.  We would love to help.
Searching in Ireland is easier if you know the religion and County that your people came from.

ETA Final point please don't believe the myth of 'searching in Ireland is difficult because of lost records' (you will hear this once some hear you are searching in Ireland)

[GR2]

I have often found that the 1861 Scottish census gives at least an Irish county of birth.

Also, a Scottish birth certificate will tell you where the parents married, which might narrow down Irish origins.

An 1855 Scottish marriage certificate will give places of birth for the couple.

[aghadowey]

Migration is just moving from one place to another so either migration or moving are correct. It was quite common for families to move back and forth between Ireland and Scotland so keep an eye out for places of birth as that may give clues to an Irish location. We can give more help if we have a better idea of where you are stuck.