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Dancer Family Nightmares
« on: Wednesday 24 August 22 13:18 BST (UK) »
I have been researching my Maternal Dancer family for a while and it is proving quite difficult.  My 2x Great Grandfather Charles Dancer was born in 1819 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire.  I have been unable to prove his parentage 100%.  I now have a DNA match to a William Dancer born in Wednesbury in 1812.  Finding anything about William is proving to be a nightmare.  I am almost positive that they are not brothers as I think Charles brothers were Richard and Samuel. Any ideas of where to look for William Dancers family would be gratefully received.

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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 13:44 BST (UK) »
Who was the father on Charles marriage certificate?
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 13:55 BST (UK) »
An 1819 baptism for Charles Dancer at Wednesbury has father Charles and mother Esther.
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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 15:17 BST (UK) »
On Charles' marriage certificate to Caroline Hodson, it just states Father Charles Dancer dead.


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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 15:20 BST (UK) »
I have been unable to find a marriage any where in the UK of Charles Dancer to Esther.  However there seems to be a lot of men with the surname Dancer married to women called Esther.  I began to wonder if some were the same person and maybe using their middle name, but I have been unable to prove anything.  There are just too many Charles Dancers in Wednesbury!!!!

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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 19:46 BST (UK) »
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I now have a DNA match to a William Dancer
Is William the common ancestor you share with the person you matched with?
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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 20:13 BST (UK) »
William is not shown as a direct ancestor, but he is the only person on the DNA matches tree who I could link into.  I have started a research tree trying to find the link between this William Dancer and the family which I am researching.  The records seem to be few and far between and there are so many Dancers in Wednesbury.  I have started to put them into family groups as best I can and I am trawling through the Parish Records for St Bartholomews Church in Wednesbury as the family seem to have many links with this church.

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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 August 22 23:36 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Charles Dancer (senior)
burial  2 Dec 1827 Wednesbury St Bartholomew
Age 45
Abode West Bromwich
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
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Re: Dancer Family Nightmares
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 August 22 07:57 BST (UK) »
Your family of Charles DANCER (senior and Junior) seem to be living in West Bromwich.
Your Charles married Caroline HODSON in Tipton, but his abode was West Bromwich.

The William DANCER that you are interested in - when he married Sarah FIELDHOUSE in 1834, he was living in Tipton.
They do appear to be related.

I think you will need to look back to earlier generations and build all the family trees. They possibly originated with this family in Oldswinford. (Oldswinford is only 10 miles from Wednesbury , 9 to West Bromwich and 8 miles to Tipton)

Parents Richard DANCER and Sarah STOLLARD married 5 Dec 1761 Oldswinford Worcestershire
Children baptised in Oldswinford Worcestershire
•   Mary 1762
•   Elizabeth 1764
•   Sarah 1770
•   Eleanor 1774
•   Hannah 1776
•   Betty 1778
•   William 1780
•   Charles 28 Mar 1784 – is this the father of your Charles who married Caroline in 1840?
•   William 1786
•   Sarah 1788
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)