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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 31 August 22 00:21 BST (UK) »


Has anyone found a birth or marriage for Cyril A B (Alma Barrie?) BAKER?

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 31 August 22 00:46 BST (UK) »
It doesn't seem likely that he was their biological son as Sheena considered herself to be an only child.  They were in Kings Norton in 1921 and Cyril is said to be born in Australia in 1912 so they may have acquired him in WA.

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 August 22 09:20 BST (UK) »
When I read Sheena's marriage announcement to WILSON, it says only daughter of.....

In the WW1 military record for the W H V, on page 78 (1917) a reference is made to his wife and 'family'. Although the number of offspring is not mentioned.  It made me think more than one child, but .. ???

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 August 22 11:03 BST (UK) »
When I read Sheena's marriage announcement to WILSON, it says only daughter of.....

Yes, I just noticed that as well.

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 August 22 11:34 BST (UK) »
Only daughter is not the same as only child.
An only daughter can have brothers.

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 August 22 13:14 BST (UK) »
Only daughter is not the same as only child.
An only daughter can have brothers.

Totally agree -- my wife is one of three daughters and one son. When her brother married, the announcement in the local newspaper said 'only son of Mr and Mrs Alan XXXXXX'

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #15 on: Friday 02 September 22 07:40 BST (UK) »
Hello Rootschat wizards.  A huge and sincere THANK YOU for your efforts and for steering me in the right direction. As said in my first post, I am dyslexic and things which take others a second to absorb takes me forever to go figure. Coupled with this fact I find great difficulty in finding my way around genealogy sites, making research tough.
Now that I know where this line of Baker's fit, I ask if you can put your sleuthing skills to the test once again and check:
1. when Walter Headland Valentine Baker and his (only) wife Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and their only daughter Sheena Flora Baker would have left South Africa for Australia. My guess is sometime after the end of the Boer War 31 May 1902 and when their son Cyril Alma Barrie Baker is born 1913 in Australia. Passenger lists?
2. Is there any chance of knowing if Walter and Gertrude attended their daughter's wedding on 3 August 1925 at St John's, Wahroonga, New South Wales. She married Geoffrey Leathes Wilson, 2nd son of Mr & Mrs Daniel Leathes Wilson, of Wollongong. Social Column newspapers?
3. I am linking Walter and his family moving to Kia Ora, Spearwood, Freemantle, Perth Western Australia, because Walter's older brother, William Andrew Baker born 02 05 1852 in Islington, London, England, (my great-great grandfather, on the run from New Zealand police due to fraud charges) landed up in Euristoun (see below). He was a surveyor and gold prospector as well as having already spent a year in jail in South Africa for fraud). His wife, Mary Balneavis Baker died in Wolwerand, South Africa in May 1896. William Andrew Baker left behind his two sons in SA, Colin Balneavis Baker (my great grandfather) and my uncle Roxby Balneavis Baker.
In Australia, William Andrew Baker got involved with:

NOTICE is hereby given that we, Alfred
Thomas Cox and William Andrew
Baker, of Erlistoun, the undersigned, have
made application this day for a gold
mining lease under the provisions of
The Goldfields Act, 1895, and its amendments,
and the Regulations made thereunder,
of ground to be known as The
Battler, containing 5 acres, commencing at
N.W. corner G.M. Lease No. 1355T, thence
10 chains north, thence 5 chains east, thence
10 chains south, thence 5 chains west to
datum peg, including, parts of forfeited
leases 687T and 643T.
As witness our hands at Laverton this
1st day of October, 1902.
ALFRED THOMAS COX,
WILLIAM ANDREW BAKER,
By their agent, A. T. Cox.

I have no idea what happened to my great-great-grandfather, William Andrew Baker. Did he remarry? When did he die? Gravesite?

Words cannot relay how much your help is appreciated.  Thank you.

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #16 on: Friday 02 September 22 09:49 BST (UK) »

A 1916 obituary which might or might not be the man.
William BAKER is not an unusual name

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211651683?searchTerm=%22william%20baker%20prospector%22~12

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Re: Searching for Gertrude Margery Baker nee Rathbone and Sheena Flora Baker
« Reply #17 on: Friday 02 September 22 11:33 BST (UK) »
Walter resigned his commission in 1917 due to ill health and looking at his military record it doesn't look like he returned to Australia.  Gertrude and Cyril went to England in September 1918 on the Corsican.  They were in King's Norton in 1921.

Debra  :)