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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 21:27 BST (UK) »
He seems to go in for romance fraud as well!

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3377150/3377152/26/


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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi,

On Find My Past. As HENRY FORBES HARDING
There is another article about him in Lloyds Weekly Newspaper 9th October 1904, far too long to type,
But he had been in Norway as a teacher of English, met a Norwegian lady Jorgine Marie Lie proposed marriage to which her parents objected, persuaded her to come to England to be married asking that her father for money,  only to discover he had married in nottingham the previous year. He was
lately residing Frederick Street, Gray's Inn Road
There is also a sketch of him and Miss Lie

On FindMyPast as CHARLES HENRY HARDING (his actual name)
Dartmouth & South Hams Chronicle Aug 6, 1909

He was refused leave to appeal against a 7 year prison sentence,  He was employed as a clerk at the Queens Hotel Manchester and had stolen abt 3000 pounds.  Mentioned that he had been given 18 months in 1904.

If you do not have access to FindMyPast. Or Ancerstry it may be worth asking at your local library, as many have access to either or both of these sites.

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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 21:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks
I have HFH's wife's name and his descendants - what I can't find are details of his early life. 
One newspaper report of his court appearance states that he's from a good family and was a student at Owens College Manchester - of course he may have been under another name when a student! 

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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 21:54 BST (UK) »
What is his father’s occupation on the marriage certificate?
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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Zetlander

In your first post you say:-

he is listed in C of E Births Manchester,
 under what name is he listed and which site or where did you get this info?

In Criminal records his parents names have been redacted
Which criminal records have you seen, title, date etc., needed to say time searching.
Again what name is he recorded under in these records.



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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 15 September 22 16:22 BST (UK) »
Hello Zetlander

In your first post you say:-

he is listed in C of E Births Manchester,
 under what name is he listed and which site or where did you get this info?

In Criminal records his parents names have been redacted
Which criminal records have you seen, title, date etc., needed to say time searching.
Again what name is he recorded under in these records.

Thanks Spendlove.

I keyed in Henry Forbes Harding - ancestry.com

and got his name with reference to his Marriage Certificate (I have a copy - father Henry Harding (minister)
also 4 references to his involvement with the courts and a reference to his Baptism.

Asked a friend who subscribes to Ancestry to look into these - he couldn't find the Birth/Baptism list
and in one of the court records his parents names are redacted. 

In one newspaper report detailing one of his court appearances he is said to have been a student at Owens College (Manchester University) and 'from a good family')

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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 September 22 12:54 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This is going to sound very harsh, but do in no way mean to be rude.

You need to start over with your Henry Forbes Harding, it is quite clear from criminal records
that this was not the name he was born with.

His actual name is Charles Henry Harding, in criminal records born abt 1877 London, however
you now have info of him in 1911 give by  MonicaL

He is in prison, born 1877, former Hotel Clerk - you know this to be true because he stole money-
but the important info is he states he was Born in Holborn, London.  Holborn may not be the actual district that he was born in but is further confirmation he was born in London.

I do not understand about redacted parents names in Court Records, perhaps you could ask your friend for details so that we can also see.

When he married, he did not use his bpt name, so difficult to believe the information he gave about his Father.  Have you looked to see if you can find the Father "Henry Harding"  Minister?






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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 September 22 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This is going to sound very harsh, but do in no way mean to be rude.

You need to start over with your Henry Forbes Harding, it is quite clear from criminal records
that this was not the name he was born with.

His actual name is Charles Henry Harding, in criminal records born abt 1877 London, however
you now have info of him in 1911 give by  MonicaL

He is in prison, born 1877, former Hotel Clerk - you know this to be true because he stole money-
but the important info is he states he was Born in Holborn, London.  Holborn may not be the actual district that he was born in but is further confirmation he was born in London.

I do not understand about redacted parents names in Court Records, perhaps you could ask your friend for details so that we can also see.

When he married, he did not use his bpt name, so difficult to believe the information he gave about his Father.  Have you looked to see if you can find the Father "Henry Harding"  Minister?


Thanks Spendlove - there is a Charles Henry Harding birth registered 1877 in Camberwell which is not far from Holborn.  Possibly saying his father was a Minister is another little porky!
I'll follow up the Camberwell birth.
(nothing harsh/rude about your post - I'm a Yorkshire based Taff and well used to straight/plain talk!

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Re: Henry Forbes Harding
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 September 22 21:20 BST (UK) »
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there is a Charles Henry Harding birth registered 1877 in Camberwell

Do you mean this one?

HARDING, HENRY  CHARLES     HAY 
GRO Reference: 1877  J Quarter in CAMBERWELL  Volume 01D  Page 811