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Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« on: Wednesday 21 September 22 08:17 BST (UK) »
Good evening all,

I would be very grateful if some one could find me a birth or death date for Dorothy Edmondson in New Zealand.

Dorothy was the second wife of Arthur, who had married, and then divorced my great aunt Florence Mary Cox.
I would like to round out his biography but I am stuck on Dorothy. All I know - using the Wilson Collection is their marriage in 1943.

I am house bound, so cannot get to a library to use Ancestry.
Any clues most welcome

Jean
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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 September 22 08:39 BST (UK) »
When I searched for  a Dorothy Edmondson  death in the NZ BDMs since 1940 only two results turned up

One of them is for a Dorothy WILLIAMS in 2010.  her date of birth 6 March 1914
(the other is for Mabel Dorothy SWIFT, dob 7 Feb 1901 in 2000)

added - and Mabel Dorothy SWIFT can be accounted for.


further added -  The Dorothy WILLIAMS who died 2010 died on 23rd June

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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 September 22 08:50 BST (UK) »
Presume you have seen the description of Arthur?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/periodicals/NZPG19291218.2.3?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=Arthur+valentine+williams&snippet=true


I can see Dorothy up to 1966 at 36 Orchard Road, Brown's Bay - (address of Arthur at his burial)
she records herself as a widow in that entry

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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 September 22 09:01 BST (UK) »
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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 September 22 09:08 BST (UK) »
Burial of the 2010 death

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=9D6A804749E208612D50E6FAE6AE2BD4


I have not managed to see a death notice for her yet.


Added - that plot number is the same as for  John Hodgson Edmondson

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=39F557CE4724730C34704D73D73F3589

His wife was Edith Ann. She was (according to cemetery record on Ancestry born 30 Mar 1876 and died 6 Feb 1980 - long lived women in that family!)

John Hodgson Edmondson death notice

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19450907.2.7?items_per_page=10&query=John+Hodgson+edmondson&snippet=true

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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 September 22 09:59 BST (UK) »
Couple of other mentions of Dorothy in the papers

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/MH19291221.2.8
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/MH19330527.2.25 - Margaret's wedding

Looks like Dorothy may have been a teacher.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19371231.2.164.2 - Engagement?

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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 September 22 23:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Jean

Some snippets re: Dorothy (- from a variety of sources) :

Birth : Dorothy EDMONDSON - reg. at Lancaster, Lancashire, 2Q - 1914.

Arrived with her parents and sister as assisted immigrants into Wellington, NZ on 21 June 1915 by the "Remuera".

EDMONDSON
-   Mr J.  - occupation shown as farmer.* - 39 years
-   Mrs - 39 years
-   Miss M. - 2 Years
-   Miss D. - 1 year


[ * Her father John Hodgson EDMONDSON was for the most part a Methodist minister.   That he is listed as a "farmer" may have been in order to comply with the requirements of a subsidised passage.     Of note also is that the 79 assisted immigrants on this voyage of the "Remuera" (travelling as they were in war time), all had relatives who were already established in New Zealand.     To minimise the risk of attack from a German submarine, the "Remuera" was escorted down the Channel from London, arriving at Plymouth, where the emigrants eventually embarked. ]

The EDMONDSON parents are shown on electoral rolls as having lived in various towns in the North Island over the years.  1919 - at Ngaruawahia - and in same year a move to Port Albert (Kaipara, Northland).   1922 - Ohaeawai (Bay of Islands, Northland) :  1925 - Bombay (Waikato district) :   1928 and 1931 - at Foxton and at Halcombe (Manawatu) :  1935 - Methodist Parsonage at Rotorua : 1938 - Waerenga (near Te Kauwhata) - Hauraki District  :  1940's - at Albany (Auckland region).
[ Marriage at Lancaster, Lancashire, UK - 1911 - John Hodgson EDMONDSON to Edith Ann CHAPMAN :      NZ Birth :  Their 3rd daughter - Betsy (Betty) was born in 1919. ]

Dorothy EDMONDSON is shown on the following electoral rolls - 1935 - (Waikato roll) - at Te Uku - spinster  / 1938 - (Thames > Coromandel roll) - spinster :  / 1941 - at Albany with her parents - spinster  :

[Sources:  FindMyPast / PapersPast / ancestry.com   ]


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Re: Arthur Valentine Williams (1881 - 1965)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 September 22 02:33 BST (UK) »
Not all that helpful but here is the 2010 death notice:

WILLIAMS Dorothy. Of Harley Road, Takapuna. On 23 June 2010 died peacefully at Beechworth Hospital aged 96 years. A service will be held at Takapuna Methodist Church, corner of Lake Road and Tennyson Avenue on Monday 28 June 2010 at 11am followed by a private cremation. All communications to Dil's, PO Box 302524, North Harbour.
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