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Re: MAZS Family before 1880
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 September 22 22:31 BST (UK) »
Future research ideas  ::)

John Snr shows on the General Register of the Poor for Mochrum. This register included:

From 1865, Parochial Boards - the forerunners of modern local government, charged with operating poor relief in their districts - were required to maintain General Registers of the Poor. These Registers had a standardised format, providing biographical detail about those granted poor relief ("paupers"), details of their family circumstances and earnings (if any), and regular updates to their status as recipients of poor relief.

I wonder if this could give you more details on the family and where in Ireland they were from?

John is showing as MAIZE here www.oldscottish.com/general-register-poor-828460-815026-755353-200016.html

John MAIZE, labourer, Barrachan   59, Ireland, Married 15 Nov 1856 Mochrum, Wigtownshire, 1865

John MAIZE, labourer, Barrachan Village 59, Ireland, Married 15 Nov 1856 Mochrum, Wigtownshire, 1871   

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Re: MAZS Family before 1880
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 September 22 03:47 BST (UK) »
Hi John

Welcome to RootsChat from me too  :)

You viewed the marriage registration for Thomas and Margaret on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Were Thomas's parents still showing as alive when he married?

What age was Thomas when married Margaret in 1880?



When and where was your grandmother born?

Monica


Thanks Monica,
Thomas was 37, born Mochrum Wigtown 1827 and Margaret was 18, Born Polmont Stirling 1862
Both parents were deceased by the time they married in 1880

My Grandmother Elizabeth Mazs, born in Saline, Fife 1904
 
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Re: MAZS Family before 1880
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 September 22 03:51 BST (UK) »
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John Snr shows on the General Register of the Poor for Mochrum. This register included:

From 1865, Parochial Boards - the forerunners of modern local government, charged with operating poor relief in their districts - were required to maintain General Registers of the Poor. These Registers had a standardised format, providing biographical detail about those granted poor relief ("paupers"), details of their family circumstances and earnings (if any), and regular updates to their status as recipients of poor relief.

I wonder if this could give you more details on the family and where in Ireland they were from?

John is showing as MAIZE here www.oldscottish.com/general-register-poor-828460-815026-755353-200016.html

John MAIZE, labourer, Barrachan   59, Ireland, Married 15 Nov 1856 Mochrum, Wigtownshire, 1865

John MAIZE, labourer, Barrachan Village 59, Ireland, Married 15 Nov 1856 Mochrum, Wigtownshire, 1871   

Monica

Thanks Monica,
I had a feeling they came from Ireland, this gives me another avenue to search

John


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Re: MAZS Family before 1880
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 September 22 04:16 BST (UK) »
Adding more family here...

Thomas's father John. I think he likely remarried in 1852:

JOHN MAISE and JANET MARSHALL
16/09/1852
Ref 892/20 233
Mochrum

1861 Census entry for him

John Maize 62 (ag Labourer) Pauper b. Ireland
Janet Maize 47
Annie Griffin 15 step daughter
Mary Maize 11
Alexander Maize 7
Janet Maize 4

Address High Milton, Mochrum

The family are in Barrachan Village, Mochrum in 1871 (showing as MAZE on the transcript I am looking at).

A possible death showing for him in 1873:

JOHN MAIZE
Age 73
----- mother's maiden name not showing
1873
Rf 892/ 2
Mochrum

His mother's maiden name may not have been known by the informant to his death perhaps. His second marriage in 1852 was pre the start of official registration so will not include his parents' details.

Monica

You are amazing Monica,
I was searching Scotland's people around Mochrum and could find nothing in the records.

Thank you very much

John


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Re: MAZS Family before 1880
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 September 22 11:24 BST (UK) »
Wondering if this is Thomas with his family?

From 1851:

John Mais 41 Agricultural Labourer b. Ireland
Dorethy Mais 12
Thomas Mais 10
John Mais 6

Address: Airylick, Mochrum, Wigtownshire

Added: Found this entry now on FreeCen. John, father, is showing as widowed by 1851 www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59066eabe9379091b1eefd1f/thomas-mais-1851-wigtownshire-mochrum-1841-?locale=en

Possible sister Dorothy looks to have married a William Stratton and they made their life in the US from available records.

I think this is them in 1861:

William Stratin 24 Ag lab b. Ireland
Dorothia Stratin 22 b. Ireland
George Stratin 7 months b. Mochrum

Address: High Milton, Mochrum

Dorothea Maize and William Stratin married in 1858 in Mochrum Wigtownshire. Marriage shows on the SP index.

They show in the US from at least the 1870 US Census. I think Dorothy died in 1909 in California www.findagrave.com/memorial/134438731/dorothy-stratton

Monica

Hi Monica,
John Mais 41 Agricultural Labourer b. Ireland
Dorethy Mais 12
Thomas Mais 10
John Mais 6

They turned up in the 1841 Census as "Mize" and his wife Mary was alive then, Both John and Mary were born in Ireland (1810 & 1815 respectively) they came to Scotland in 1840.
I tried to find them in Ireland but had no luck, so many derivations of "MAZS"
What is the best site to search for Irish?
Thank you very much for the direction

John



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Re: MAZS Family before 1880
« Reply #15 on: Monday 26 September 22 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi John

Some recent suggestions here for Irish research resources www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=866150.0

Would be good to at least find where in Ireland they were from  ;)

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