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Death look up
« on: Thursday 22 September 22 17:55 BST (UK) »
Good evening. I have just come back on to Rootschat after a number of years off. I would like to know if there is anyone that could do a look up for me for death/burial. The details are, William
Burnett aged 48. Died 3Q 1892. Durham. Ref 10a 378.
I would like to know if the next of kin or person notifying is shown.
In the past, a lot of money has been spent on certificates which have been incorrect.
Many thanks in advance.
Durham - Burnett
Cumbria (Carlisle) - Burnett, Grubb, Cook, Gash,
Berkshire - Grubb
S Yorkshire - Tew
Derbyshire-Stoppard,Hallows/Hallas,Chadwick,Dunk(s), Jones, Wolstenholme, Armstrong
Sussex - Smith
N. Yorks - Mewburn, Tew
Oxfordshire - Mewburn, Grubb
Warwickshire - Tew
Hampshire - Bailey, Cousins/Couzens - Adams
Lancashire - Wolstenholme, Jackson

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Re: Death look up
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 September 22 18:20 BST (UK) »
The death is registered in South Shields

From the Northern Echo, Monday 22nd August 1892

The Rev. William Burnett, Unitarian minister at Barnard Castle, died suddenly on Saturday at South Shields.

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Re: Death look up
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 September 22 18:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. Unfortunately it is not our William. Iíve rejoined Ancestry but still struggling with him. I really appreciate your help.  :)
Durham - Burnett
Cumbria (Carlisle) - Burnett, Grubb, Cook, Gash,
Berkshire - Grubb
S Yorkshire - Tew
Derbyshire-Stoppard,Hallows/Hallas,Chadwick,Dunk(s), Jones, Wolstenholme, Armstrong
Sussex - Smith
N. Yorks - Mewburn, Tew
Oxfordshire - Mewburn, Grubb
Warwickshire - Tew
Hampshire - Bailey, Cousins/Couzens - Adams
Lancashire - Wolstenholme, Jackson

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Re: Death look up
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 September 22 11:48 BST (UK) »
If you put down what you know about your William and what you are struggling with people will be able to look  :) 
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Re: Death look up
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 September 22 13:12 BST (UK) »
Hi, Thank you for your message.  William has been an enigma for years.
The information I have is: 
William Burnett, according to Railway records he was born 25 March 1889 in Keppochill Lanarkshire, Scotland (birth not found yet).
Father William Burnett, Mother Elizabeth (Robertson).
First marriage to Elizabeth Easton 28 Oct 1870 in Barony, Lanarkshire - William's father is down as being a Private in the 11th Regt of Foot (deceased).
1871 Census William living with wife Elizabeth - Maryhill, Lanarkshire.
Elizabeth then died.
Second marriage Annie Maria Alma Cook, Carlisle - 15 Nov 1877 - Marriage certificate obtained.  Father is down as William Burnett (deceased) Second Lt 11th Regt of Foot (Huge promotion :D).
1881 Census - William, Annie  and son William living in Normanton, Wakefield.
1891 Census - William missing from census - Annie down as wife - living with children.
Children -
William b.1880 Normanton, Wakefield. Died 8 April 1889 Carlisle- Birth and death cert obtained.
Violet Emma b1883 Newcastle upon Tyne.
James b.1885 Gateshead Durham. D. 4 June 1916.
Gladstone b.1886 Newcastle upon Tyne. D. 11 June 1916.  Birth certificate obtained.
Rose b. 3 May 1887 (Great Grandmother) Birth never found but death cert obtained.
Lily b. 16 May 1890 South Shields. D. 25 March 1993. Birth and death cert obtained.

Young Williams death in 1889 was noted as William (Father) as informant.
Lily's death in 1993. Informant was Annie.

On the 1901 Census Annie is listed as wife and married.
1911 Census Annie is married but Head of household.

William seems to have been absent from 1889 onwards.

Sorry this seems a lot of info for you. It is really the birth and death of William that is stumping us.  On one of the census he is listed as being born in Liverpool, Lancashire but I think this maybe an error for Lanarkshire.

Any help would be appreciated.  I have had many people try to help in the past and have found extra info but I seem to be going round in circles.

Many many thanks  ???





Durham - Burnett
Cumbria (Carlisle) - Burnett, Grubb, Cook, Gash,
Berkshire - Grubb
S Yorkshire - Tew
Derbyshire-Stoppard,Hallows/Hallas,Chadwick,Dunk(s), Jones, Wolstenholme, Armstrong
Sussex - Smith
N. Yorks - Mewburn, Tew
Oxfordshire - Mewburn, Grubb
Warwickshire - Tew
Hampshire - Bailey, Cousins/Couzens - Adams
Lancashire - Wolstenholme, Jackson

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Re: Death look up
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 September 22 15:37 BST (UK) »
All good information there.

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Father William Burnett, Mother Elizabeth (Robertson).

Have you found their marriage and when/where it took place?

What occupation does your William have on the records you do have?

Have you got the death for Annie to see if she was down as widowed?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Death look up
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 September 22 15:41 BST (UK) »
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William Burnett, according to Railway records he was born 25 March 1889

ah that can't be right if he married in the 1870's
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Death look up
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 September 22 15:58 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out this one in 1901 Glamorgan

fireman married age 53 vessels at sea born Glasgow  :-\
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Re: Death look up
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 September 22 17:20 BST (UK) »
Old threads for reference:

Help with a West Derby marriage needed please. (Lancashire Lookup Requests)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=686769.0

Railway Records (Occupation Interests)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=552947.msg4059809#msg4059809


Wife Annie appears to be indexed under the name Burnell on the 1921 census. Info from free search:

1921 Census
Carlisle, Cumberland

Annie M A Burnell; Head; Widowed; born: 1855, Portsmouth, Hampshire
Annie R Appleton; Boarder; Single; born: 1896, Edinburgh, Scotland

minimaiden2710, is this first instance of Annie being recorded as a widow? Also, do you have any marriage records of William's children, and do any record him as deceased?
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson