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Parents of William Davies
« on: Thursday 22 September 22 22:04 BST (UK) »
William Davies was born on the 18th of September 1863 at 13 City Garden Row, St Luke's, London, England. He was the son of Joseph Davies and Matilda Davies (nee Richards). I believe that he may have been adopted as a child (between 1863 and 1871) by William Jelley (1837 - 1888) and Frances Elizabeth Jelley (nee Richards) (1836 - 1906), and renamed William Jelley Davies (I have posted about him before), but I have been unable to prove that he is the right child.

I can find absolutely no information on Joseph and Matilda Davies:
  • No fitting marriage record
  • No appearance as a couple in any censuses (they were not living at 13 City Garden Row in 1861 or 1871
  • I can find no other children that they might had
  • I can find no death records that would work for Matilda prior to 1871

Can anybody help?

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Re: Parents of William Davies
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 September 22 22:54 BST (UK) »
What was Joseph's occupation and who registered the birth?

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Re: Parents of William Davies
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 September 22 22:56 BST (UK) »
What was Joseph's occupation and who registered the birth?

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He was an omnibus conductor, and Matilda registered the birth (with a cross: I suppose she was illiterate).


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Re: Parents of William Davies
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 September 22 22:57 BST (UK) »
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Re: Parents of William Davies
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 September 22 23:02 BST (UK) »
If Frances Jelley was nee Richards - have you investigated the possibility she was Matilda’s sister?

Where was Frances born?

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Re: Parents of William Davies
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 September 22 23:54 BST (UK) »
I had previously looked at that scenario.

The more I think about it, I am now wondering if that birth of William Davies mmn Richards found by Annette is perhaps a nephew of William and Frances.
They had no other children; could a sister of Frances married a Davies, then one or the other parents died, and the other parent could no longer keep William, so he was taken in?

I have been looking at the Richards, but so far nothing.  Perhaps even a cousin of hers.... gah!

I was thinking the same but it looks like Frances Elizabeth was the oldest survivng female child.  If I have the right family, her father James, a carpenter, married Frances Sarah DAY in 1831.  Ann Mary was baptised in Holborn in 1834 and was buried at Westminster in 1838.  Frances Elizabeth was baptised at Westminster in 1837.

1841

Piece: 671;  Book: 2;  Folio: 53; Page number: 15

1851

Piece: 1513;  Folio: 151;  Page Number: 21

I think you really need to see the birth cert to confirm the parents' names to start with.

Debra  :)