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Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« on: Saturday 24 September 22 01:16 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I am near completing the research into the life of my 2x Great Grandmother, Ameilia Ann Mitchell (nee Scoffield).

I have recently received a copy of her birth certificate (attached).

The certificate states her place of birth was I.A.M. at Buckland, Parish of Portsea.

I am aware of Buckland as an area within Portsmouth, however I cannot identify the abbreviation I.A.M.

I am wondering if this is a generic abbreviation that others may of come across or one that was specific to the area at the time i.e. the name of a local building?

I did note that the birth was registered in the Portsmouth Island Union, which I assume is the workhouse.  I was wondering if after the birth the family moved into the workhouse, it is slightly confusing although my lack of knowledge may be the problem.

Any thoughts on the I.A.M. abbreviation or general observations will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Steve

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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 September 22 01:31 BST (UK) »
Is it the time 1am?
Union was just a word used for a district and did not mean workhouse.

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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 September 22 01:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Comberton,

Thank you for your suggestion, it is a possibility although I have never seen a time of birth stated on a birth certificate before.

In addition, I am unsure if there would be a full stop after the figure "1"

It will be interesting to gather others thoughts on this.

Best regards,

Steve

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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 September 22 01:48 BST (UK) »
Yes, it is the time of birth. 1 am.
I have seen numerous birth certificates with time of birth recorded.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 September 22 02:19 BST (UK) »
The time of birth was always recorded in the case of twins. Franinoz
Leadbetter North Meols
Tyrrell  and Shettle Hampshire
Cope Wolstanton
Rice New York and Sydney
Pidgeon County Wexford
Smail and Cochran Berwickshire
Worling and Harrop Cambridgeshire
Happ Eltville
Harrop and Shettle Suffolk

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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 September 22 02:27 BST (UK) »
Yes, it is the time of birth. 1 am.
I have seen numerous birth certificates with time of birth recorded.
I agree with it being the time.

I've never seen a birth without the time recorded (to date), however, I don't have many English birth certs.

Annie
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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 September 22 02:33 BST (UK) »
This may be of interest...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruq/

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 September 22 10:55 BST (UK) »
I agree this is likely to be the time of birth.

I see that the date is 1839, very early period of civil registration.  I have a birth certificate issued in the same RD for a birth in November 1838.  It too has the time of birth on it " ¼ Past 2. P.M. " and the signature of the registrar is the same, William Hatch.  This birth was not for a twin. 

I have read that there was initially much confusion about what details should be recorded on certificates.  Another birth certificate issued in 1839 where the mother was not afforded her married name led my father to believe that the child in question was illegitimate.  The parents in this case were definitely married, but the marriage took place before 1 July 1837 when civil registration began. 

This link may be helpful - a wonderful website now only available via the Wayback Machine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150303001756/http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm

Nell
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Re: Birth Place I.A.M. ???
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 September 22 00:09 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I want to thank everyone for their helpful comments, as always they are much appreciated.

I am always amazed by the excellent response of the RootsChat community.

Special thanks to Little Nell for the link and highlighting that the same registrar also recorded the time of birth on a certificate she holds.

Steve