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Eccles and Matilda Black
« on: Saturday 24 September 22 17:26 BST (UK) »
I have a marriage cert for William Robert Black 1947 Co Durham that shows his father as Eccles Black(farmer). They appear to be the family living Beltonanean, Ballynasollus, Tyrone in 1901/11.
Eccles appears to be born abt 1860 in Tyrone and dies 20 Feb 1940 Beltonanean. Matilda was born abt 1870 Tyrone. Possible marriage was Jul/Sep 1900 Cookstown.
What I would like to do is confirm info that I have and expand on it, find Matilda's maiden name and her date of death.

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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 September 22 17:53 BST (UK) »
Start with William Robert Black- when was he born?

It helps if you post links to details you've already found to save us from having to look for the same information ourselves.

Census-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballynasollus/Beltonanean/1730464/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Ballynasollus/Beltonanean/860136/ (son Wm. Robert age 9)

Marriage- Matilda's maiden name was Black-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10352/5768488.pdf

William Robert Black born 20 June 1901-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01947/1752379.pdf

Mid-Ulster Mail, 2 Mar.1940: ECCLES BLACK. The news of the death of Mr. Eccles Black, of Beltonanean, was received with profound _ by a wide circle of friends and neighbours. Mr. Black, although 84 years old, enjoyed excellent health, and was only ailing a few days prior ...
Black Eccles of Beltonanean county Tyrone farmer died 20 February 1940 Administration Londonderry 22 May to Matilda Black the widow. Effects £662 0s. 3d. D.B.N. P.R. 15.1.43
Black Eccles of Beltonanean county Tyrone farmer died 20 February 1940 Administration (d.b.n.) Londonderry 15 January to John Black farmer. Effects £662 0s. 3d. Former Grant Administration Londonderry D.R. 22 May 1940.

Black Matilda of Beltonanean county Tyrone widow died 25 February 1941 Administration Londonderry 30 March to John Black farmer. Effects £182 11s. 7d.

A few months earlier-
Mid-Ulster Mail, 13 Jan.1940: ... chief mourners were :—Eccles Black (father); Wm. R. Black and John L. Black (brothers); Samuel Glasgow and Robert A. Hopper (brothers-in-law); John Bole, Wm. J. M'Culla, Wm. Black, James Black (uncles); Rev. R. J. Black, Eccles Black, John M'Cullagh, Albert ...
Black Eccles of Caledon county Tyrone sergeant R.U.C. died 7 January 1940 at Beltonanean in said county Administration Londonderry 30 July to Matilda Black widow. Effects £420 10s. 3d.
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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 September 22 18:01 BST (UK) »
Mid-Ulster Mail, 13 Jan.1940: BLACK—January 7. at his parents' residence, Beltonanean, Cookstown, Eccles Black, Sergeant Royal Ulster Constabulary. Interred in Clare Churchyard on Tuesday afternoon. Mr. and Mrs. Eccles Black and family desire to return their sincere thanks to the many kind ...

Mid-Ulster Mail, 26 June 1909: FUNERAL OF MASTER ECCLES BLACK, With deepest sympathy we _ the death of the above child, which took place at his father's residence, Baltinanean ...

Mid-Ulster Mail, 21 Feb.1921: BLACK. In loving memory of our dear father, Eccles Black, Beltonancan, who passed away 20th February, 1940; also our dear mother, who passed away 25th February, 1941. Dearest to us than words can tell, Was the father and mother we ...
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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 September 22 18:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks. The dob for William Robert coincides with a 1974 death in Durham.
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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 September 22 12:42 BST (UK) »
Hello
Here's the details of their marriage
26th July 1900 at Oreton ? parish of Kildress
Eccles Black bach farmer Beltonaneon.  parish of Kildress? William Black father farmer
Matilda Black spinster Black Hill Doons Parish of Kildress Robert Black farmer
wit William John Black and Eleanor Black

Zachariah Black the brother in 1901 dies 25 March 1903 age 62 farmer of paralysis and exhaustion.Brother Eccles informant.Beltonaneon.

ps possible parents for Matilda -Robert Black and Ellen MCord married 27 Feb 1858 of Doons and Corkhill Kildress fathers William Black farmer and James McCord farmer.

Also there looks to be another brother James Black for Eccles born 1846 married Elizabeth Charles 2nd April 1873 fathers William Black farmer and William Charles farmer.
They have sons William John and Eccles on the 1901 census at the same place .

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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 September 22 12:50 BST (UK) »
Here's the details of their marriage
26th July 1900 at Oreton ? parish of Kildress
Eccles Black bach farmer Beltonaneon.  parish of Kildress? William Black father farmer
Matilda Black spinster Black Hill Doons Parish of Kildress Robert Black farmer
wit William John Black and Eleanor Black

Link to actual marriage registration already posted- the church is ORRITOR Presbyterian Church-
Marriage- Matilda's maiden name was Black-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10352/5768488.pdf
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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 September 22 15:21 BST (UK) »

Also there looks to be another brother James Black for Eccles born 1846 married Elizabeth Charles 2nd April 1873 fathers William Black farmer and William Charles farmer.


Link to marriage - 22 April 1873
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11270/8133062.pdf


They have sons William John and Eccles on the 1901 census at the same place .


Link to 1901 census - house 4 in Beltonanean (Ballynasollus, Tyrone).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballynasollus/Beltonanean/1730445/

Also son Robert and daughters Hessie and Evelyn.

Eccles Black born 16? July 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1890/1902515a.pdf


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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 September 22 07:25 BST (UK) »

Link to 1901 census - house 4 in Beltonanean (Ballynasollus, Tyrone).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballynasollus/Beltonanean/1730445/

Also son Robert and daughters Hessie and Evelyn.


Hessie Black married Robert Robinson Black on 4 February 1913 at Stewartstown Methodist Church, Co Tyrone. Her sister Evelyn Margaret Black was one of the witnesses.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09870/5585397.pdf

Robert Black living in the townland of Gortnagross.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/kildress/oritor/gortnagross/


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Re: Eccles and Matilda Black
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 September 22 08:05 BST (UK) »

Hessie Black married Robert Robinson Black on 4 February 1913 at Stewartstown Methodist Church, Co Tyrone.


Two daughters-

Martha Black 1914   
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01406/1578086.pdf

Rachel Elizabeth Black 1917
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01322/1546548.pdf

Both children born at Mackenny townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/kildress/oritor/mackenny/

PRONI Will Calendars - https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Full Abstract :
Black Robert Robinson of Mackenny Kildress Cookstown county Tyrone farmer died 25 June 1934 Administration Londonderry 8 January [1935] to Hester Black the widow. Effects £215 10s.



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