Stephen Hogan

[Liz Hogan]

Hi. I'm trying to find more information about my great grandfather Stephen Hogan, born 1862-64 in Ireland (one census says Dublin) and settled in Liverpool. He was married to Margaret Ann Shepherd (Late Fazenfield) but I have never found any marriage entry for Stephen and Margaret, my great grandparents. They had two living children, John James and Stephen. Stephen died as a teenager in the Liverpool workhouse and my grandfather, John, married Elizabeth Hornby and had eight children. He died in May 1941. Any information at all would be very welcome. I have a Gedmatch number and willing to find any relatives

[ColC]

Birth Registration began in 1864, there are three Stephen Hogan’s on  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie One in Tipperary 1865 & two in Cork 1866.
So I guess as you say a little earlier.

The 1911 census states he was a widower but had been married for 17 years had 5 children 3 had died, this was crossed out as it was not required, it is normally in the wife's information.
Margaret was on the 1901 as born Liverpool about 1871, John 5 & Stephen 3 were both born Liverpool.

Stephen is not in Liverpool in 1891 but Margaret is, see below.

Ellen Bawsthome   50   Head   Widow (As transcribed)
James Shepherd   26   Son-in-law   Single
Margaret Shepherd   27   Daughter   Single
 
No marriage record that I can see?

Colin

[wivenhoe]

Ancestry Liverpool Catholic baptisms  https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/2180/

St Sylvester    8 /17 Jul 1895
HOGAN John James     ps   ps Stephen and Margaret (nee Shepperd)   2c   * Blenheim St
godparent   Anna CAMERON     

St Sylvester    23 / 30 Aug 1897
HOGAN Stephen        ps Stephen and Margaret (nee Shepherd)
godparent    Maria MORAN

St Nicholas  25 / 26 Aug 1904
FAZENFIELD Michael    ps Daniel and Margaret FAZENIELD  (nee SHEHPERD)
godparent Helena RYAN

[Liz Hogan]

Thank you both for your replies.
I've come across this information and yes, Margaret died in 1909. I've never been able to find any information regarding the children who didn't survive. The baptism records are correct - my grandfather and grand uncle.
They're listed in the 1901 census but their surname is recorded as Hoghan (obviously a mistake).

I've found two very possible military records for Stephen.

I suppose my next step is to get the train up to Dublin and try to find help.

Thanks again.

[CaroleW]

I notice Margaret died as Hogan - not Fazenfield

[Liz Hogan]

Yes. I can't find a marriage certificate with Stephen, just Daniel. It's always likely Margaret and Stephen never married

[shanreagh]

What marital status did Margaret give on her marriage certificate to Daniel?  Widow or spinster? 

[Liz Hogan]

Spinster. On my granddad's birth certificate she is Margaret Ann, late Fazenfield, formerly Shepherd. Same on her other child's, my great uncle's birth certificate

[wivenhoe]

If your grandfather's birth certificate describes mother as  -

"Spinster...........Margaret Ann, late Fazenfield, formerly Shepherd."

I do not think she was married to the father of the child. There is no marriage.

Where and when was baby born?.......where and when was the birth registered?

What name do you see for informant?    What occupation for father?