Eliphalet Hill -Unusual name

[Littlebn20]

Hi again, apologies to anyone who spotted my thread yesterday relating to this man.

Eliphalet Hill, who was baptised in 1805 was my 4 x G.Grandfather and father to my 3 X G.Grandmother Ann Hill, who was born in 1829 and later married Henry Weaver in 1859.

I was just wondering if anyone had come across this name Eliphalet in the UK, or elsewhere before?

It certainly wasn't common in London, or the wider UK at the time.

With the help of this site, I think I have found an accurate birth record for Eliphalet to John & Susannah in 1805 and he is on the 1841 census with Ann in Flower & Dean Street, Whitechapel.

I have done a bit of a search on the name and it appears that there are a few Eliphalet Hill's in Connecticut, USA from 1600's onwards, all the way to mid 1700's. Furthermore, it looks as if the Hill's branched out from Exeter in Devon to Connecticut at some point.

Do we think that this name is unusual enough to suggest a potential link? Possibly an impossible question to answer. Just throwing it out there for now

[mckha489]

I have one of those big Bibles with concordance and other useful things in the back, including proper names.

Eliphalet 2. Sam 5. 16.
Eliphelet 1. Chr 3. 8.

So, I would be hesitant about assuming a link. But worth investigating nevertheless.

[Ruskie]

Apparently it is a Hebrew name. If you look at the various censuses, there is the odd one out there, but it is a rare name. There may be others hiding behind misspellings/variations. (If that were my name I would probably shorten it to Eli  )

If you want to find out if there is any connection between the American Eliphalets and yours, you might like to consider building their trees to see where they lead. You might be lucky enough to find already constructed trees on various sites such as Familysearch, but information contained therein may or may not be accurate.

[maddys52]

If you are interested in the American Eliphalet HILLs, this book lists some genealogies.
https://archive.org/details/historyoffairfie02sche/page/378/mode/2up

Search using "eliphalet hill" brings up a few mentions, not just the entries under "Hill". You can see that Eliphalet HILL's father and grandfather (both William HILL) arrived in America from England in 1632.

[Littlebn20]

Thanks for your thoughts everyone. Feels like a job for the weekend

[garstonite]

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?go=1&nom=hill&prenom=eliphalet&prenom_operateur=or&with_variantes_nom=&with_variantes_nom_conjoint=&with_variantes_prenom=&with_variantes_prenom_conjoint=&size=10

prior to Connecticut there was one born BOSTON 1650 - his father William Hill was b 1622 in Exeter - his parents were father William Hill - mother was Sarah Jourdain - her father was Ignatius Jourdain - his mother Elizabeth Baskerville - could this be the Jewish link ? 

[Littlebn20]

Very interesting indeed.

I do have a couple of DNA matches with the name Jourdain in their trees, although both set to private. Then two with Baskerville (one private) but then one to an Elizabeth Baskerville (1630) from Worcestershire, so think it's just a coincidence.

I wish that I could spend some time on this today. Might treat myself to an evening of going down the Eliphalet Hill rabbit hole!

[maddys52]

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?go=1&nom=hill&prenom=eliphalet&prenom_operateur=or&with_variantes_nom=&with_variantes_nom_conjoint=&with_variantes_prenom=&with_variantes_prenom_conjoint=&size=10

prior to Connecticut there was one born BOSTON 1650 - his father William Hill was b 1622 in Exeter - his parents were father William Hill - mother was Sarah Jourdain - her father was Ignatius Jourdain - his mother Elizabeth Baskerville - could this be the Jewish link ?

Yes, that is the family detailed in the book I posted, though it doesn't mention Sarah's family. 

[J.J.]

This subject from 2 yrs ago is continued in another recently posted thread re: the family of Eliphalet
  -There's been plenty of help & the main topic "Coffee House" no longer valid to him in this era, so if you do look in, start here  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=887440.36

To add to the Jourdain / Hill DNA connection from centuries ago...  There was a son who did not leave for the U.S. -  James Jr. c.1578 ( (no desc. listed)
Riches to rags & visa versa from failed business / families of dozens or more children, etc. can happen
adding, trees differ...also see son Benjamin didn't leave for U.S. either 
only one tree lists desc.  https://www.geni.com/people/Benjamin-Hill/6000000005922020947

adding:  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hill-2888
James Hill, Merchant of Lyme Regis, Dorset (transcription 1621 will)  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ti8/
The familySearch tree: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LTVN-WTJ

adding: so which one is this???
Will of William Hill, Merchant of Lyme Regis, Dorset -  1608


Jourdain/e, Jourdayne, Joyrden, Jurden, Jordan/e, Jurdayn/e  Jardyn/e ETC.
Two Merchants -John & son John nephew Sylvester https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jourdain
Sylvester's story  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvester_Jourdain
Sylvester (her brother? or cousin of same age?) & Ignatius were merchants from Lyme Regis!
relationships vary, as one says Sylvester & Ignatious were brothers, not cousins)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jourdain-240
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/jourdain-ignatius-1561-1640
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LTXL-S8T/ignatius-jourdain-1561-1640

____________Examples of spellings ONLY________________
and 2 spellings on one entry for a couple
Dorothye "Jordaine" wife of Thomas "Jordayne" of Colleshill
 (from papers of: Wingfield Digby family of
 Sherborne Castle, Dorset & Coleshill, Warwickshire )
(Was it perhaps French origin?... Or just a different way to spell Jordan?)
1617  Jourden,  John,  yeoman,  Great  Marlowe,  Bucks.  50  Weldon
1616 Jordane, Robert, shipwright, Wapping, (Whitechapel)
1610 Jordaine, Thomas, yeoman, Frome Selwood, Somerset