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Cause of death
« on: Friday 04 November 22 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Begins with O I think?  Thanks in advance!

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 November 22 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Looks like
Oppression
for years

But will research further...
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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 November 22 12:08 GMT (UK) »
That's what I saw but I don't understand?  Do you think they mean depression possibly ending in suicide?  This is a Irish Catholic community in 1872.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020742/7277058.pdf

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 November 22 12:14 GMT (UK) »
That's what  I wondered. I'll see if I can find anything to back that up or explain. So far, no joy.
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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 November 22 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Yvonne Donnellon on Friday 04 November 22 12:08 GMT (UK)
That's what I saw but I don't understand?  Do you think they mean depression possibly ending in suicide?  This is a Irish Catholic community in 1872.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020742/7277058.pdf

Depression was my first thought. Maybe the D's form was misread by the Registrar/clerk.

In comparison, the O in O'Brien has a closed form.


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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 November 22 15:19 GMT (UK) »
I think it means depression, as in an oppression of spirits.
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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 November 22 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Yvonne Donnellon on Friday 04 November 22 12:08 GMT (UK)
Do you think they mean depression possibly ending in suicide?  This is a Irish Catholic community in 1872.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020742/7277058.pdf

If it had been suicide, it would say that on the medical certificate, and the informant would have been the local coroner rather than a neighbour or relation as here.
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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 November 22 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 04 November 22 16:00 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Yvonne Donnellon on Friday 04 November 22 12:08 GMT (UK)
Do you think they mean depression possibly ending in suicide?  This is a Irish Catholic community in 1872.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020742/7277058.pdf

If it had been suicide, it would say that on the medical certificate, and the informant would have been the local coroner rather than a neighbour or relation as here.

So how do you die of oppression?  I'm wondering if this is a fudge because committing suicide is a sin as a Catholic and potentially could have prevented her from being buried in sacred ground ?

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 November 22 22:50 GMT (UK) »
I have no idea how you might die of oppression. It seems the Registrar was happy to accept that as the cause of death, so presumably it was accepted as valid.  I have never heard of a suicide being concealed in that way.  Seems all a bit risky. And if it was suicide, I am sure that someone would have told the priest, in which case it would all be to naught.
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