Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s

[Sophie_Glen]

Hello,

I have reached a brick wall for about 5 months researching my ancestor, Eliza Kelly (nee Maloney). Any help would be much appreciated!

Her date of birth seems to be c.1840-1845, born in Galloway Ireland. The first time I can find her on records is the 1871 England census, where she appears as the wife of Thomas Kelly in Blyth, Northumberland.

I don't hold out much hope of a birth record, but I would love to locate a marriage record for her and Thomas. From the 1911 census they are recorded as being married 49 years, which would mean they married around c.1862-1864.

I have found one record that records an Eliza Maloney marrying a Kelly in Houghton-le-Spring in January 1863, but that is for a Mark Kelly who is born in 1829. Thomas was born c.1845.

Both Eliza Maloney and Thomas Kelly are Catholic if useful.
Sophie

[amondg]

First child Matthew born circa 1864 Durham from 1871 census

There is a Elizabeth Maloney 3rd quarter 1865 Teesdale Durham

The others on the page Elizabeth Clement and George Hall- so there is a missing name of a groom

[wivenhoe]

"Both Eliza Maloney and Thomas Kelly are Catholic if useful."

How do you know this?

Do you have baptism records for the children?

Where is this family for the 1881 England census?

[crisane]

FreeBMD has two grooms with one of them recorded with two different first names
Marriages December 1/4 1865 
Clement Elizabeth   Teesdale    10a   376   
Hall George        Teesdale    10a   376    
Maloney Elizabeth    Teesdale    10a   376    
Winn   Daniel        Teesdale    10a   376    
Winn   David        Teesdale    10a   376   

[heywood]

Do you have births of the older children showing mother as Maloney?

I see Sarah Bridget, 1867, Tynemouth and Eliza in 1869 and then later children.
I can’t, at the moment, see Matthew, Charles or Henry.

[Sophie_Glen]

Morning,

I have found a mixture of census, GRO, and baptismal records for 10 children. I can't find the older children on GRO, but I have found a baptismal record for John Henry born in 1868 which lists Thomas Kelly and Eliza Maloney as his parents.

The children are:

Matthew born 1864
Charles born c1866
John Henry born 1868. I have found his
Sarah born c.1868
Elizabeth born c.1869
William born c.1871
John born c.1873
Thomas born 1874
Margaret Ann born 1876
Stephen born 1879

Heywood: I suppose the adults may have converted after marriage, but for the records I have located, all children are bapitsed as Catholics.

The family move to Mount, Usworth on the 1881 census.

[softly softly]

If I have the correct Thomas in all census he was born Ponteland, Northumberland.

KELLY, THOMAS       mmn STYANS 
GRO Reference: 1845  J Quarter in CASTLE WARD UNION  Volume 25  Page 252

Brother John

KELLY, JOHN       mmn STAINES 
GRO Reference: 1843  S Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24

1851 census

Piece:   2394
Folio:   411
Page Number:   36
Household Members:   
Name   Age

Mathew Kelly   45  Manchester
Sarah Kelly   45  Cox Heath, Kent.
John Kelly   8        Durham
Thomas Kelly   6  Ponteland

Trying to find in 1861 to see if still single.

John

[Sophie_Glen]

Hi John, I believe that is the correct Thomas, as later census' mark him as being born in Ponteland. I've ordered both his and John's birth certificates, but not sure if that will help much.

I'm struggling on the 1861 census to locate him as well. They are an elusive couple!

Thanks everyone for your help so far.

[wivenhoe]

"all children are bapitsed as Catholics."

For each baptism record that you have located can you list all the information....everything please.

Catholic baptisms are a useful source of information because they name godparents....who are often family members.