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Marriage Register from Cork in 1813
« on: Wednesday 16 November 22 17:37 GMT (UK) »
It would appear from the names that this is Ireland's first same-sex marriage!

My 4x great-grandfather is a chap called Darby Ring from Cork. I can confirm nothing more about him, however there is this marriage record from 1813 in Cork. He appears to marry someone called Julian Connor!

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Is anybody able to confirm this is correct?

Many thanks.

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Re: Marriage Register from Cork in 1813
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 November 22 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Winston!  :)

This entry does indeed say 'Julian Connor'
Perhaps a spelling of Julia or Julienne.

There is another 'Connor' name mentioned in the entry - presumably one of the witnesses, but this clerk loved his abbreviations, and it's tricky to make out the first name of this witness.
They would quite probably have been a relative of the bride.
Whatever this first name is, it's the same as the first name of the second witness - somebody Hanlan or possibly Harlan.

The name could be Jer(emia)h?
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Re: Marriage Register from Cork in 1813
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 November 22 21:39 GMT (UK) »
I would agree with the name Jeremiah given in its shortened version.   There is one further up the page that looks as though it is a shortened version of Cornelius perhaps.

It may be that this vicar/priest had a habit of shortening long names. 
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Re: Marriage Register from Cork in 1813
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 November 22 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Julian can apparently be a woman's name and there are a number of instances historically including Julian of Norwich who was a nun.
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Re: Marriage Register from Cork in 1813
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 November 22 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Winston!  :)

This entry does indeed say 'Julian Connor'
Perhaps a spelling of Julia or Julienne.

There is another 'Connor' name mentioned in the entry - presumably one of the witnesses, but this clerk loved his abbreviations, and it's tricky to make out the first name of this witness.
They would quite probably have been a relative of the bride.
Whatever this first name is, it's the same as the first name of the second witness - somebody Hanlan or possibly Harlan.

The name could be Jer(emia)h?

Thank you for the welcome, and thank you all for your replies.

The witnesses could indeed both be called Jeremiah, thank you that didn't occur to me. Given it was the early 1800s, Julian must have been female. So I would agree either a misspelling or that was her actual name.

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Re: Marriage Register from Cork in 1813
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 November 22 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Julian can apparently be a woman's name and there are a number of instances historically including Julian of Norwich who was a nun.

Yes this is correct and also there is the possibility that the priest left off the final 'a' and that it was meant to be Juliana. 
There are Jerh Connor and Jerh Han/rlan as witnesses