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Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« on: Sunday 20 November 22 10:17 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on this lady who allegedly was born abt 1845 in Twyford Hants...cannot find record of this...one of the problems I found was varying spellings of the name. She had a child called Rhoda Shackleton Annals in 1870 who I believe was illigitimate daughter of James Annals.
I do not think they actually married.? However there is a marriage of a James Annals to a Sarah Jane Evans Dec 1873.
Thank You for your assistance David

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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 November 22 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Where did you get her birthplace & birthyear from?  If from a census - please post full details

Where was Rhoda born?  No 1870 birth on freebmd under Elkins, Shackleton or Annals

Where is Rhoda in 1871 & 1881 & what surname is she under
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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 November 22 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Births Sep 1844
Shakleford    Eliza Agatha Winchester 7   230
GRO has nmmn so illeg

Parents did not marry til 1849

William 1846 and James 1849 are reg as Shakleford also and illeg
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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 November 22 10:54 GMT (UK) »
I dont think that James has a Daug Rhoda with his sister or half-sister.

1891 we have;
William Annals 68 Head
Agatha Annals 46 Daughter
William Annals 44 Son
James Annals 41 Son
Rheda Annals 22 Granddaughter
William Robert Annals 1 Great-Grandson (Great Grandson)
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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 November 22 10:56 GMT (UK) »
1881 has Rhoda Annals b 1869 as the grand daughter of William Annals.  - see 1881 entry.  Did you not look for her in 1881 & 1871?

William has a 36yr old unmarried daughter Eliza
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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 November 22 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Misread info so deleted :-[
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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 November 22 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Looks like might be Rhodas Birth Reg;


   ELKINS,  -      - 
GRO Reference: 1868  D Quarter in WINCHESTER  Volume 02C  Page 110
(FreeBMD and GRO have her as Female)
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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 November 22 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Found Rhoda  in 1871 with family of William Annuals as 'boarder' age 2(b 1869)
 In 1881 shown as daughter of James Annals aged 12 both records show area Twyford Hants
Are we saying that Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins was registered born as Eliza Agatha Shackleton? Sorry folks takes me a  while to catch up without a computer only got a tablet...

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Re: Agatha Eliza Annell Elkins
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 November 22 11:42 GMT (UK) »
No not granddaughter of James but to of head of house William;

William Annals   58 Head Widr
Eliza Annals   36 Daug Unm
William Annals   34 Son Unm
James Annals   32 Son Unm
Rhoda Annals   12 Granddaughter
Emma Annals   8

Anc has made a big mistake with putting Rhoda/Emma as Daughters of James
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