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Offline RickyJack

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Hi to the group..
Is there a passenger shipping site from Germany to India around  1860-1870 nothing on the usual genealogy sites for Luschwitz
Joseph Henry Luschwitz born Germany died India 1904 howd he get to India/Pakistan sometime between 1860 and marriage 1869 Pakistan, another brother went England to India no record for him can be found either. They immigrated not tourists, not in Military records either...stumped
Appreciate any help..Thanks
Cheers Rick

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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 22 04:09 GMT (UK) »
Joseph was Band Master with 1/8 the King's Regt.
He was band master of the garrison band in 1898 when his wife died in India. This was his second wife, who he had married in India in Madras in 1882. (Wife no. 1 was Mary)
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NWN-3ZB5
His son Charles was born in India in 1869
His daughter Clara was born in India in 1872 and she married in India in 1896.

Records on FamilySearch 

It is likely he travelled with his military unit.
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 22 07:32 GMT (UK) »
According to Wikipedia: The 1st Battalion (Kings 8th) was brought back to Britain from India in 1860. It spent the year 1865 in Dublin, Ireland, where the battalion supported garrison operations against Irish Republican activity in the city. Then, after two years in Malta, the 1st King's returned to India in 1868.

There is a newspaper mention in 1884 of Band Master Luschwitz and family travelling from Colombo to Bombay on the steam ship "INDUS".

Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 22 08:36 GMT (UK) »
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There is a newspaper mention in 1884 of Band Master Luschwitz and family travelling from Colombo to Bombay on the steam ship "INDUS".

That may be Carl Luschwitz. He was in Ceylon from 1879 until September 1884

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo97%2f3324%2f148%2f004&parentid=gbm%2fwo97%2f3324%2f195777
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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 22 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Shaun, I think you are correct.
Carl was Bandmaster with 102nd Regt
I wonder if he was the brother mentioned in the opening post.
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 November 22 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Newspaper report of marriage
Luschwitz , Joseph Henry   
to   Moore, Mary Elizabeth       
Place - Bhooj   
Date 1 Feb  1869   

Register Entry     Feb 1st at Bhooj by the Rev AL Onslow Chaplain of Rajkote and Bhooj, Joseph Henry Luschwitz Bandmaster HM's 2nd Belouch Regiment Kurrachee to Mary Elizabeth Moore only daughter of Mr John Moore Bandmaster HM's 19th Regt NI Bhooj   

(Bhooj is probably Bhuj in Gujarat)
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 November 22 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Assuming that Carl was the brother - they both had a father named Joseph
(RickyJack needs to confirm)
 
Title or Rank     Mr. & Mrs. C.G.  Luschwitz  
Arrival   Aug-01    1857   
Name of Ship     Ava   
Type of Ship     P&O Co. Steamer   
Captain     Geo. Steinson       
Passenger Origin     Southampton   
Passenger Destination     Calcutta   

They seem to have returned to England thecsame year.
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 November 22 14:06 GMT (UK) »
The 1880 burial register (wife Mary) and 1882 marriage register show that Joseph was then in the employ of the Nizam of Hyderabad
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Re: Need a passenger site to Check Luschwitz Germany to India 1860-1870 Please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 November 22 14:12 GMT (UK) »
"Conflicting stories exist as regards how Joseph Henry Luschwitz, a talented German musician, wound up in Hyderabad. One suggests Salar Jung I heard him play in Vienna and asked him to move to Hyderabad. The other that Salar Jung I lured him away from the 2nd Baluchi Regiment of Karachi where he served as their Band Master. Whatever the truth may be, we know for a fact that Mehboob Ali Khan, the sixth Nizam, promoted Joseph Henry from Band Master to Director of Music."

https://www.siasat.com/from-the-history-the-band-that-became-the-pride-of-hyderabad-2056190/
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