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Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« on: Wednesday 30 November 22 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi folks. Im down with Covid but a Wikitree family I took over as it had no manager is frustrating me and not letting me relax. Im pretty sure what's there is wrong but Im struggling to sort it out between taking rest breaks. I've numbered it to help me focus.
1. Stephen Winn, Born 20 Nov 1804 in Whitby, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom.
2. (Son of Stephen Winn and Anne (Corps) Winn)
3. Brother of Edward Winn, Eleanor Winn, Elizabeth Winn, John Winn and Mark Winn
4. Husband of Sarah (Pearson) Winn — married 2 Mar 1830 in Whitby, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
5. Father of Ann Winn, John Winn, Stephen Winn, Mark Winn and Sarah Winn
6. Died 1842 at about age 37 in Whitby, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom

OK so its  1 and 4 that I am focused on just now. The rest may then sort out.
I am sure there is a Stephen B1804, but its not the one that fits (I think).
A Stephen Winn married a Sarah Pearson in SUNDERLAND in 1830.
The children to Stephen and Sarah are born in Sunderland.
There is a 1841 census in Monkwearmouh that seems to show a Sarah widdowed (not of this county).
Now I find a Sarag born 1810 in Ryton with notes that the parents are not of this county. It would also make that Sarah not of Monkwearmouth parish.

I do not believe the Yorkshire sources are correct, or I may be just barking crazy from covid.
Can someone please come with some clarity, my brain isnt up to it just now... Thanks ever so much.
Winn, Wynne, Wynd, Wind, Winde

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 10:38 GMT (UK) »
1861 census Whitby.

Sarah Winn widow 52 Chatham Kent
Stephen 24 Sunderland
Sarah 19 sunderland

Stephen Winn senior was a mariner so he could have been at sea for the 1841 census. This census doesn't state marital status so there is nothing to indicate she's a widow. I haven't found the marriage record for them in Whitby.

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Middlesbrough. Their marriage certificate on Findmypast, the image, shows BOTH of this parish, ie Monkwearmouth. The record 2 mar 1830, is on FindMyPast and shows them both of MWM and witnesses.
EDIT - I just found the Baptism record on FindMyPast for a Stephen WIN born in Whitby, Yorkshire and his mothers name is Ann, which kinda meshes with the WT parents of Ann (Corps) Winn, so maybe he moved from Yorshire to become a mariner???

Interestingly FindMyPast suggests a birth record for Sarah of 1787 in MWM to a father (occupation sailer). I dont think this is the right Sarah as the ages get a bit too far out, maybe a relative.

Yes I was not correct assuming she was widowed in 1841. I can't seem to nail Stephen down. There is one in Whitby, but I'm not convinced that is the right one if they are both from Monkwearmouth. But I dont find any records of him in Durham county other than marriage.
Actually I do find a Stephen Winn born in Kent !!??
Winn, Wynne, Wynd, Wind, Winde

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Could this be Stephen Snr in 1841 from Anc

Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital Admissions and Discharges
Name:    Stephen Winn
Admission Age:    38
Birth Date:    abt 1803
Birth Place:    Whitby
Sailed out of Sunderland
Chest Affection
Height 5ft 7in
20 years in Merchant Navy
Admission 13 Mar 1841
Discharged 16 March 1841
Admission Place:    London, England

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Great find Kay.

There are seamen's records for Stephen Winn snr and junior on Findmypast.
Stephen snr born c 1805 Whitby.
Stephen jnr born 1836 Sunderland.

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 December 22 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Bapt;
23 Sep 1836, St Peter, Monkwearmouth, Durham
STEPHEN Winn, Parents STEPHEN/SARAH
Birth 02 Sep 1836
Father a Mariner
Abode Shore

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SARAH Winn Bapt 19 Sep 1841, Birth 28 Aug 1841

Both on FreeREG
GRO is down so I cant check Sarahs Birth Reg for Mothers maiden name.
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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 December 22 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kay, amazing find, thank you, may I ask for the source reference to use_

Apologies for the late reply, I was just too sick, wee bit better today, DONT get Covid.

Kays find helped clarify. Whitby is "just" down the coast from Sunderland. Also I realise re the marriage cert, of this parish doesnt mean born there, just living there. I think he went home after his illness and seems to have passed away the following year.
Sarah is still a bit of a mystery. There is a hist of a Sarah in family trees on myheritage of a Sarah from Chatham, Kent. But I do not trust them at all. Yes its on the seaside and Stephen was a sailor... but its a long stretch. So Sarah is still a bit iffy.

Hi Trish, yes I have that reference, thanks, young Stephen 1836 is clear enough as is the parents to Stephen1804/5. I think I am confident enough to correct (less than I thought).

Thanks so much folks.
Winn, Wynne, Wynd, Wind, Winde

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 December 22 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to hear you are still suffering

The details I posted on Stephen's admission and discharge were from  the  England, Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital Admissions and Discharges, 1826-1930 on Ancestry.  This may help explain
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ryy/   https://seahospital.org.uk/about-us/our-history/

Hope you improve soon

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Re: Stephen Winn Covid Fog
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 December 22 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kay, thanks so much for that, things are getting clearer.
Winn, Wynne, Wynd, Wind, Winde