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Baptism extract
« on: Wednesday 30 November 22 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Any idea of the word between "Thomas" and "son of Thomas..." in the attached extract please?

My initial guess is "Thomas Junior Son of Thomas..."

The "J" looks like the J in John, four lines below, although without the flourish of other Js on the page, and there appears to be an "i" in the word judging by the dot to the right of the stroke from the "f" descending from the line above.

Edit: or maybe "Twin", but the first letter is unlike any other "T"s on the page, and there's no trace of the other child?
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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Irwin or possibly Irvin
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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 16:07 GMT (UK) »
I'd agree with ShaunJ - Irwin or Irvin
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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Is this Thomas Irwin Stokes?
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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Is this Thomas Irwin Stokes?

Could well be Shaun, I was not having much luck finding him until I tried Ancestry just now. Now I have some matches that look promising.

My Gx4 GPs were Thomas Stokes and Hannah Deary. My Gx3 GF was baptised in Wilmington, Kent. I haven't looked at the line for some time as I've been researching elsewhere, but I've just picked it up after investigating a DNA match whose Gx2 GF turns out to be my Gx3 GF's brother, baptised in Aveley, Essex. So I'm trawling baptisms in the local area and have found Thomas, amongst others, as potential siblings.
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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 21:12 GMT (UK) »
I'd agree with ShaunJ - Irwin or Irvin

I think it is one of those two names as well.  It could be a valuable clue going back possibly to a mother's maiden name or family name. 

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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 21:32 GMT (UK) »
I agree that it is Irwin. I think the first upstroke of the w is covered by the long thick downstroke of the f from the line above. There is almost too much room in the space between the r and the I for the letter to be a v.  :)


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Re: Baptism extract
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Yes, he's Thomas Irwin. I have a marriage and census entries for him now. Appears to be one of seven children of Thomas and Hannah, and a brother of my Gx3 GF. The dates and places of their baptisms all fit nicely.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 November 22 22:58 GMT (UK) »
I think it is one of those two names as well.  It could be a valuable clue going back possibly to a mother's maiden name or family name.

Indeed. Margaret Stokes of Purfleet married Thomas Irwin 25th February 1802 at St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Westminster. Purfleet/Aveley/West Thurrock is another connection. I'm betting Margaret was young Thomas Irwin Stokes' aunt. Another job for tomorrow...
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