Two wills?

[hf789]

I have a Thomas Foreman 1838-1901. Have located a will to his Son from 1901 index:

FOREMAN Thomas of Church Road Homerton Middlesex died 25 May 1901 Probate LONDON 26 July to Charles James Foreman tailor Effects £4049 14s. 11d.

However, I've also came across the same again in 1914 index:

FOREMAN Thomas of Church Road Homerton Middlesex died 25 May 1901 Administration (with Will) LONDON 7 August to George Henry Foreman tailor. Effects £2030. Foreman grant July 1901.

Can anyone help explain this to me? Why are there two wills? They are both his Sons and neither passed until 1921 onwards.

[Marmalady]

Possibly more property / money was found that had belonged to him that had not been distributed by the first will.

My 2xGreat grandfather's will was proved soon after his death in 1870.
In the mid 1890s one of his sons was legally declared to have died in Manilla in about 1867 -- and so there was a further probate of his will to distribute money originally left to that son.

[mazi]

There are not two wills, the executor named in the will, C J Foreman, would for reasons unknown have not completed the job so in 1914 his brother had applied to be appointed as administrator of the same will to complete the job.

The reason we may never know, illness maybe or just never got round to it.

Mike

Added note, the executor has the absolute right to act, his brother would need good reason to apply to administrate, the delay alone may be good enough reason.

[hf789]

There are not two wills, the executor named in the will, C J Foreman, would for reasons unknown have not completed the job so in 1914 his brother had applied to be appointed as administrator of the same will to complete the job.

The reason we may never know, illness maybe or just never got round to it.

Mike

Added note, the executor has the absolute right to act, his brother would need good reason to apply to administrate, the delay alone may be good enough reason.

Interesting. So it's the same will from 1901 but it was not completed by G H Foreman so appointed to his Brother in 1914.

I have not yet had time to look into G H + C J Foreman. Hopefully I will be able to discover the answer as to what happened once I look into them.

Thanks for the assistance.

[mazi]

If you are thinking of purchasing the will, £1-50 I think, make sure you buy the original application, not the 1914 one as you won’t get a will with an administration.


Mike

[hf789]

If you are thinking of purchasing the will, £1-50 I think, make sure you buy the original application, not the 1914 one as you won’t get a will with an administration.


Mike

Thanks for the heads up, Mike.

[arthurk]

In this case, since it says Administration (with will) there might be a copy of the will. It's the ones with Administration and nothing else that may not be worth getting.

In fact the 1914 one may well include an explanation of why a second grant was needed, and as it's only £1.50, if it were me I'd probably order both.

[StevieSteve]

You do get sent the will with Administration with wills and an explanation on the grant.

A recent example of mine was a will where no executors had been specified.

[aghadowey]

FOREMAN Thomas of Church Road Homerton Middlesex died 25 May 1901 Administration (with Will) LONDON 7 August to George Henry Foreman tailor. Effects £2030. Foreman grant July 1901.

Think this should read former grant.