Cook family confirmation please.

[Darnity]

Timothy's father was John Cook
 D. O. B 11.03.1811 in Harrington Bedfordshire (Shoe maker - he married Eliza Warr D. O. B 1808 from Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire.

Where did they marry and when? Do you have them on a census?

[rosie99]

Where did they marry and when?

Salford, Bedfordshire 22 Feb 1830. John Cook to Eliza Warr

[scook1961]

Thanks for that confirmation. However I already have this information, I am looking for John Cook's ( D. O. B 1811)
Parents, which I am lead to believe - is Timothy Cook D. O. B 1770 and Rebecca Mann D. O. B 1775 both born in Bedfordshire. Also I am lead to believe that Timothy's father is James Cook and his mother is Elizabeth Easter, but I need this confirming. They apparently married in Toddington Bedfordshire in 1755. I would appreciate clarification on this please, as I have no written evidence to back it up. Thanks again, cheers Steve Cook

[Ladyhawk]

deleted and amended my post

baptism for John Cook already given by Neale1961 at reply 3 

[rosie99]

Darnity asked this, I replied to their query on the marriage, could you please answer the census question for us 

Timothy's father was John Cook
 D. O. B 11.03.1811 in Harrington Bedfordshire (Shoe maker - he married Eliza Warr D. O. B 1808 from Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire.

Where did they marry and when? Do you have them on a census?

[Darnity]

Where did they marry and when?

Salford, Bedfordshire 22 Feb 1830. John Cook to Eliza Warr

So where does Steve's information that Eliza was from Newport Pagnell come from?

Salford (pronounced Safford - silent "el") is just on the border between Beds and Bucks in the area that is modern day Milton Keynes. A small village - one time home to Michael Crawford of "Some mothers do ave them" fame.

It's about six miles by road from Newport but probably less across the fields using footpaths. So I'm wondering if Eliza may have been working in service in Salford and that's why they marry there if her family home is in Newport.

But other than the vicarage and the mill I'm not coming up with any obvious places of employment for her.

What records say her husband John was a shoemaker?

Kelly's for much later in the century doesn't show many employment opportunities so probably far less in 1830:

http://virtual-library.culturalservices.net/bedfordshire/vlib/0.digitised_resources/salford_digitisation_kellys_directory_1894.htm


I'm trying to work out how John and Eliza may have met to try and think of other sources of information that might be useful to Steve.

[Darnity]

So where does Steve's information that Eliza was from Newport Pagnell come from?

I assume it's the baptism of an Eliza Warr 03 Feb 1808 at Newport Pagnell, her d-o-b given as 24 Jan 1808 and parents James Warr and Elizabeth.

There's a death of an Eliza Cook 1Q 1841 Woburn RD and that RD covers Salford so did they remain in the area? But I can't find John and children in Salford on the 1841 census.

There's an Eliza Cook in Wavendon, the next parish to Salford, in 1841 with a John who is much older than her and some children but he's an ag lab not a shoemaker.


Steve says that John Cook and Eliza Warr are the parents of Timothy James Cook D. O. B 1830 in Stockley(Shoe maker) married twice, first to Ann Elizabeth Smith
D. O. B 1835 and second marriage to Sarah Warrender D. O. B 1834. - the James as Timothy's  second given name (for Eliza's father) looks good but I've yet to see anything which proves that the Salford marriage is Steve's John Cook.

[rosie99]

Just checking back on census etc 

Arthur T Cook married Edith C Large in 1924 Islington RD

Arthurs parents were Henry & Annie (nee Hudson -) and he was living with them in 1901/11/21.
Henrys place of birth was London, Middlesex Holloway?)

Henry Harry Cook married Sarah Ann Hudson in June qtr 1882 Islington RD.  According to the marriage his father was Timothy Cook deceased. Wedding witnesses were Hudson family.

1881 Henry was living with his mother Sarah and stepfather James Powell - place of birth of all 3 was Islington.  Brother Timothy was also there
COOK, TIMOTHY  JAMES     mmn WARRENDER 
GRO Reference: 1861  March Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 220

1871 Was living with mother, stepfather & siblings

1861 Sarah states she is married but crossed through (no husband there) just the 3 boys John 3, Henry 1 & Timothy 3 months - all born Islington

COOK, HENRY       mmn WARRENDER 
GRO Reference: 1859  Dec Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 182

COOK, JOHN  JAMES     mmn WARRENDER 
GRO Reference: 1858  Mar Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT  Volume 01B  Page 197

Timothy James Cook (Widower) married Sarah Warrender Dec qtr 1856. Timothy James Cook died in March qtr 1861 age 30.

In February 1851 Timothy married Ann Elizabeth Smith  at St Pancras - father John a Shoemaker.  They were both of the parish at the time of the marriage.  Two children baptised to this couple William James Cook in 1852 and Sarah Elizabeth in 1854.  Presumably the marriage you refer to before he married Sarah Warrender.

Where do you have Timothy in 1851 - ADDED OK found him with wife 'Elizabeth' his pob Bedfordshire.  Have you found his baptism 

In 1841 Timothy is in Hope Street. Islington 
John   Cook   30   occ Shoe M(aker)
Mary   Cook   30   
Timothy   11   
William   5   
John   Cook   2
All born in County (Middlesex)

Timothy's father was John Cook
D. O. B 11.03.1811 in Harrington Bedfordshire (Shoe maker - he married Eliza Warr D. O. B 1808 from Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire.

John's dad was Timothy Cook
D. O. B 1770 in Harrington Bedfordshire (shop owner). He married Rebecca Mann
D. O. B 1775 in Bedfordshire.
I would really appreciate any help clarifying the above facts are correct and finding any additional infirmation for me. Kind regards Steve Cook (Arthur Cook's grandson)

   

[rosie99]

I cannot see if this has been posted (Sorry)

From freereg
Broughton, Buckinghamshire   (St Lawrence)
Baptism    24 Apr 1831
Timothy James
Father    John
Mother    Eliza
Father surname   COOK
Father occupation   Shoemaker