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Offline Kathleen Jones

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Elusive Ancestors
« on: Wednesday 11 January 23 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Osborn (marriage 1872-Bethnal Green to Joseph Overton my Great Grandfather) by her age at marriage born 1853- their is an Elizabeth Osborn born 1853 in Bethnal Green- however this  mother Jane was married to a William Osborn- so could have been William John or mistake on marriage Certificate- so looking for proof - went to Janes other childrens marriages looking at witness names also  Overton marriages- looking for their names to see if there was any connection before they married - the only connection I can find is they both seem to be non-conformists-I have been on BMD and looking at other Elizabeth Osborns born 1853-1854 and cant seem to find a way forward in any direction- went to the 1871 census looking for a John Osborn with a daughter Elizabeth- I dont seem to get any joy- where else to look- I need some expertise on this- thanking you so much for your help

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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 January 23 08:48 GMT (UK) »
The GRO has a Elizabeth Osborn recorded Bethnal Green S 1/4 1853 mother Craig ,do you have this birth certificate
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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 January 23 08:55 GMT (UK) »
All the other children with widowed mother Jane  in 1861 census are also registered as Mother Craig,
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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 January 23 09:08 GMT (UK) »
in 1851 census
1 Wallbrook Place,Shoreditch
John Osborne head aged 39, rug weaver born Suffolk
Jane aged 40 born Middlesex St Andrews,
Henry aged 16
John aged 14
Arthur aged 11
Frederick aged 9
Edward aged 6
and a hard to read perhaps Harriet aged 3,

GRO has Hannah Osborne mother Craig birth Bethnal Green 1848
GRO has Edward Osborne mother Craig birth Bethnal Green 1843
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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 January 23 10:15 GMT (UK) »
perhaps this is his death
John Osborn (Orsborn) on family search
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aged 35
burial Shoreditch, St Leonard
8th November 1853
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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 January 23 11:01 GMT (UK) »
So we need to find a marriage for Jane Craig if there is one, to ascertain her husbands full name , I can see where you are coming from as in census he is John, but some of his children baptisms name him as Willian
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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 January 23 12:10 GMT (UK) »
25 July 1830 at St James, Paddington

William Osborn, widower of this parish married Jane Craig, spinster of this parish.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Elusive Ancestors
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 January 23 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your input but I know all this history of William Osborn and Jane Craig- what I wanted to know if  their youngest daughter Elizabeth could be my Elizabeth Osborn who married Joseph Overton in 1872 at Bethnal Green- I have exhausted all census etc., looking at family member marriages to see if they could have been witnesses before they were married - to see if I can tie them together as their is only speculation at this time-  I thought  I may see if there would be any write ups in local papers - as especially Deaths would normally have been advertised  locally in that day and age- so I will have to look at that- but wanted to know if anyone could think of something I had not done in order to proceed- the only thing that connects them at the moment is non conformist marriages- as Josephs line goes back to the Hugeunots- thank you once again for all  the work you have put into this- from kathy
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