Author Topic: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)  (Read 476 times)

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 I have found a Marriage between a Archibald Bane and Issobell Hunter 3 Nov 1598 same area Midlothian as Johnne Bane bapt 1598. The only problem is Archibald and Issobell had 4 children and one was named Johnne bapt 25 March 1610. Is it possible that this is the Mother to Johnne Bane 1598 but now I have my doubts as there would be 2 Johnne Bane's in the same family.  The 1598 Johnne married a Jeane Seatoun (no date) and had several children.

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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 January 23 13:33 GMT (UK) »
If a child of a couple died, back then it was very common for families to re-use the same name on another child born later. Are there any burial records for the parish to see if the first Johnne died young? It is quite unusual, but not completely unheard of for two living children of the same person to have the same name.
Dodd (Carden, Cheshire), Hodkinson (Chorley near Wrenbury, Cheshire), Reeves (Tilstock, Shropshire), Wynne (Stretton, Cheshire)

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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 January 23 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Just to add: Assuming the children are all born to the same father, there is also the possibility of one of the names in the register being entered incorrectly. I have come across a few examples of this, certainly more frequently than I have come across two living children with the same name. That said, I have done little research in Scotland, so people can correct me if this may have been more common there in comparison to England and Wales.
Dodd (Carden, Cheshire), Hodkinson (Chorley near Wrenbury, Cheshire), Reeves (Tilstock, Shropshire), Wynne (Stretton, Cheshire)

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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 January 23 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou Chesters
John Bain bapt 1598 did not die but went on and Married Jeane Seatoun c1632-4 and sired many children. As for some families naming two living children with the same name, I have not come across this before. I hope this is one of the cases. I will check SPeople for any mistranslation. As I am doing this research for someone else I want to get it right. If I can join John Bain 1598 to the other family I can then move on to the next Bain. Thankyou again for your comments, most helpful


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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 January 23 20:01 GMT (UK) »
There is a third!

BANE
JOHNNE

ARCHIBALD BANE/
M
20/10/1601
Edinburgh

How do you know that it's the 1598 John who married Jeane Seatoune? 

Bev
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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 January 23 20:13 GMT (UK) »
If 1st John was baptized March 4 March 1598, Isabel is not necessarily the mother as the marriage of Archibald and Isabel did not occur until November of that year,
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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 January 23 07:58 GMT (UK) »
not all trees are correct - check this out
Archibald Bane

Born 8 March 1571 (Monday) - Perth, Kinross-shire, Scotland
Deceased in 1628 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, aged 57 years old

father John Alexander Bane Laird of Tulloch Castle Bain - born in 1514 - Tulloch Castle, Dingwall, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland, deceased 29 October 1600 (Sunday) - Perth, Kinross-shire, Scotland aged 86 years old

mother Agnes Fraser - born in 1528 - Lovat, Inverness-shire, Scotland, deceased 29 January 1595 (Sunday) - Tulloch Kelichrist Inverness, West Lothian, Scotland aged 67 years old
this would mean Agnes would be 43 when Archibald was born
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Archibald Bane
married Issobell Hunter -  Issobell Hunter, born in 1575 - South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland, deceased in 1633 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland aged 58 years old, buried 12 January 1633 (Wednesday) - Dalton-In-Furness, Lancashire, England (Parents :  Sir Robert Huntar, XVII Laird of Hunterston 1535-1581 &   Christian Robertson or Robertsone 1540-1613) .
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children
John Bain 1610 -1666 - married Jean Graham 1613 - 1661
no other children shown on this tree ?
but - found this
Archibald Bane
Married to Alison BALLENDYNE ca 1580-ca 1606 with
M John BANE 1601-1670

so IS Alison Ballendyne the mother of the 1601 John Bane and there are TWO Archibald Bane around at the same time ??... ???
ADDED - this ARCHIBALD IS BORN 1575

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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bevj I am going on the fact that Johnne Bain 1598 had 9 Children all Baptised Edinburgh Midlothian Mother Jeane Seatoun. I guess the Marriage is somewhere but I am unable to find it (Yet)

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Re: Bapt of Johnne Bane 4 Mar 1598 Father Archibald Bane no Partner (Mother)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks  Garstonite. I will check out the marriage Alison Ballendyne and Archibald