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William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« on: Monday 23 January 23 16:34 GMT (UK) »
So on my Tree I have
two William King Fortt's born around the same time and place
They are 1st cousins

one is born
to
----- my third great grandparents----
William Fortt
17961880
BIRTH 1 MAY 1796 Bath, Somerset, England
DEATH 19 JAN 1880 1 Claremont Buildings, Combe Down, Bath, Somerset

and
 
Mary Fisk
17961846
BIRTH 1796 Badingham, Suffolk, England
DEATH 11 MAY 1846 Bath, Somerset, England
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the other William King Fortt
is born to

my 3rd great granduncle

John Fortt
17951865
BIRTH JAN 1795 Bath, Somerset, England
DEATH APRIL 1865 Bath, Somerset, England
and his wife
Maria King
B:1796 Bermondsey, Surrey, England
D:Oct 1842 Bath, Somerset, England

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??????

What I need to know is which William King Fortt married
Emma Bristow
B:1833 Bath, Walcot, Somerset, England
D:13 Mar 1909 Bath, Somerset, England
??????

I think she married my 2nd great grand uncle but am not sure



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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 January 23 16:48 GMT (UK) »
When & where was the marriage?

Emma Fortt was 72 when she died so birthyear ??1836/7

1871 census shows William was b London - not Somerset
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 January 23 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Birth reg for son William King Fortt b 1864 shows her maiden name as Briston - not Bristow but daughter Julia's in 1858 is Bristow
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 January 23 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Eldest child Emma b 1855 was b USA so they may have married there as I can't see a marriage in England.  The marriage cert will give the name of William's father.

Who did the other William King Fortt marry as it may be easier to determine his fathers name if he married in England
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 January 23 17:09 GMT (UK) »
This is the only baptism I can see at the moment

William King Fortt
Baptism Date:   12 Feb 1832
Baptism Place:   Christ Church, Southwark
Father:   John Fortt
Mother:   Maria Fortt
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 January 23 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Did you check the Family Trees on Ancestry?  A tree shows the parents of the William who married Emma  as John & Maria as per Rosie's reply above
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 January 23 17:30 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism of a William Fortt (no middle name) in Bath 8 Aug 1831 - parents William & Mary.  Williams occupation a confectioner.  This family are in Bath in 1841 and in 1851 this William (the elder) has a different wife - Ruth though he is still in Bath. 

William Fortt bn 1831 appears to be lodging with his future wife and inlaws the Bristons

Marriage Sep qtr 1847 
FISK    Ruth       
Fortt    William       
Tendring    12   365

ADDED
Could this be his wife
Death June qtr 1846   
FORTT    Mary       
Bath    11   5
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 January 23 17:47 GMT (UK) »
William bn c1832 in USA 1855 with wife Emma and daughter Emma
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K67C-NJ1

ADDED This document says been in country 3 years
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 January 23 18:38 GMT (UK) »
the one document I know is the right for the William that is my 2nd great Granduncle and son of William and Mary. 
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Name   William Fortt
Age   10
Estimated Birth Year   1831
Gender   Male
Where born   Somerset, England
Civil parish   St Michael
Hundred   Bath Forum
County/Island   Somerset
Country   England
Registration district   Bath
Sub-registration district   The Abbey
Neighbours   View others on page
Piece   969
Book   6
Folio   19
Page number   33
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I know where everyone in this house hold ended except William Fortt Jr.
Truthfully looking at it I have no proof that Williams middle name is King.

that name was attached to a photo posted by someone that had photos of most of this exact family

I don't have the 1851 census for him that might have some clues on it???

the 1861 and later census' has him married to

Emma Bristow
18331909
BIRTH 1833 Bath, Walcot, Somerset, England
DEATH 13 MAR 1909 Bath, Somerset, England

most people on ancestry has this as a fact but it has not solid proof that is true?????

I did not make the connection myself

I guess more important for me would be who William Fortt Jr married and what happened to him (since he is the closer relative)

sorry if this is confusing because it is for me....