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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Yes, this is the family, but apart from his baptism and a few court cases, and the one census (1851), Thomas seems to be a mystery. William and Rebecca only seem to have had two children baptised. I don’t know whether they went off the rails due to the demon drink, which seems to have been a factor in at least some of the criminality.

Richard must have been William and Rebecca’s last child because she died in the year of his birth (of asthma).
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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Rebecca didn't die the year Richard was born.

Richard was b 1839 - Rebecca was still alive in 1841 & only died Dec qtr 1846
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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Rebecca Jarvis of Thornton Lane, buried 18 November 1846 aged 49 - St Martin, Leicester.

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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both for putting me right on her death. How silly of me to get it wrong when I’d already mentioned her in the 1841 Census. Losing the plot, I think!

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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 20:08 GMT (UK) »
This doesn't answer your question but may be of interest.

Thomas Jarvis aged 22 years and 0 months, born St Margaret's Leicester, attested for the 45th Regiment in July 1839. Deserted several times over the next few years and was punished for it. Discharged on medical grounds in July 1843 suffering from opthalmia in both eyes.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F0598%2F132%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F598%2F640037

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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 20:57 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure if you've caught this one, but there seems to be another court case potentially in 1856.

Leicester Chronicle - Saturday 19 January 1856

'William Bates pleaded guilty to breaking Thomas Jarvis's nose, in Redcross-Street on the 15thinst. Fined £5 or two month's imprisonment.'

No further details, but as you mentioned Redcross-Street further up I thought this might be him.
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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 21:06 GMT (UK) »
I've also got a super tenuous one which might suggest that Thomas Jarvis was still around in Leicester as late as 1867.

According to this newspaper,

Leicester Journal - Friday 13 September 1867

On the Thursday, a man called Samuel Goodman was found to have hung himself in his rented rooms on City Wall Street.

The people who discovered him went out looking for help, and a man called Thomas Freer, who lived in Burgess Street, overheard and took his cousin, Thomas Jarvis, to go and look and they helped to cut the man down.

There are no further details about Thomas Jarvis or Thomas Freer, it just seems that they were friends of the man who died.

So if your Thomas Jarvis does have a cousin, than maybe that's the right one?
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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 21:08 GMT (UK) »
This doesn't answer your question but may be of interest.

Thomas Jarvis aged 22 years and 0 months, born St Margaret's Leicester, attested for the 45th Regiment in July 1839. Deserted several times over the next few years and was punished for it. Discharged on medical grounds in July 1843 suffering from opthalmia in both eyes.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F0598%2F132%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F598%2F640037

Thanks for this, it is very interesting and looks as though it might well be him, since he seems to be missing from the 1841 Census in Leicester. He was fined for a drunken assault in May 1839 (jointly with father William) and his next appearance in the record in Leicester seems to be his complaint against his family for assault, so the times fit, as does his age and character.

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Re: What happened to Thomas Jarvis of Leicester?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 21:33 GMT (UK) »
There is an 1861 census I wondered if you had come across,

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7G5-295

Thomas is as single but married on the census return and with a Sarah, both of Leicester, a little older and in Handsworth; this chap is a bellows maker  ???
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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