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Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« on: Thursday 26 January 23 13:28 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone could help ? My g,g,g, ? grandfather Robert Moss (dob 1796) is in the 1851 census with his wife Harriet and children, living in the 4th Battalion Military at Shorecliffe Portsmouth,
I have been trying to find out more about him, was he in the navy, army or a civilian, running the officers mess ?

I know he must have spent time in Ireland as one of his children was born there !

My mums surname was Moss !

Any info on his regiment, position or any info at all on him i would be very grateful


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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 January 23 09:16 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.

Tthere are a lot of service records on Anc for Robert if you have access,

His pob on Census and service records are hard to make out though.

1851 has him born Helsnigham, Suffolk

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One entry has him born Sivilling, could it be Sweffling?

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 January 23 09:38 GMT (UK) »
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Helmingham is a village and civil parish in the Mid Suffolk district of Suffolk in eastern England, 12 miles east of Stowmarket, and 12 miles north of Ipswich.

Moss
Robert
1795

1795
Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Helmingham, St Mary, Suffolk, England

Transcript on FindMyPast

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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 January 23 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John, googled that but didn't help with finding a bapt!

1861 they are in Cheriton, Kent
Fourth Battalion Military Shorncliffe Camp
R Moss   1796 Suffolk, England, Officers Mess Man   
H Moss   1809 Whiteparish, Wiltshire   
W Moss   1839 Portsmouth, Hampshire   
G Moss   1845 Dublin, Ireland
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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 January 23 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Name:Robert Moss
Age:   15
Birth Date: abt 1795
Birth Place: Swillington, Suffolk
Military Date: 7 May 1810
Unit:   84th Foot Soldiers, 2nd Battalion

Name:   Robert Moss
Pension Admission or Examination Age: 40
Birth Year:   abt 1795
Birth Place: Swilling,Suffolk
Date: 9 Dec 1835
Regiment:   84th Foot
Rank: Sergeant
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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 January 23 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Birth of son William

MOSS, WILLIAM  DIMMOCK     mmn DIMMOCK 
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION  Volume 07

Transcript of baptism on FindMyPast with parents recorded as Robert & Harriet.

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added,

marriage of parents
Moss
Robert


1833
Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages
Portsea, St Mary, Hampshire, England

Robert was a Widower

Witnesses to marriage were a W(William) H (Henry) Moss Dimmock c1808-1865 and Caroline Dimmock nee' Carlisle

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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 January 23 10:06 GMT (UK) »
gosh thank you both very much for info on my Robert Moss

Yes, you have the right chap I found in born down south in Suffolk and that he was in the officers mess and that he had a child born in Ireland - must be his army career that took them there?

I'm not sure what ANC is to look at his record ?

thank you so much as the family ended up in North Yorkshire as various members were employed on the trains !

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Re: Trying to find Fred Moss b 1795 Suffolk
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 January 23 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Marriage of Elizabeth(Letitia)

Marriages Dec 1864   
Moss    Elizabeth Letitia Barry        Elham    2a   1529    
Mouncy    John
        Elham    2a   1529    
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Name:   Elizabeth Letitia Barry Moss
Gender:   Female
Age:   20
Birth Date:   1844
Marriage Date:   3 Dec 1864
Marriage Place:   Cheriton, Kent, England
Father:   
Robert Moss
Spouse:   
John [b]Mouney


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