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Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« on: Tuesday 31 January 23 17:11 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find where my dads homestead is actually located. I have been at this for days
Been to archives. National and Cavan. Tried calling land registry.
It is from either cencus  In county Cavan, in Lisgrea (Virginia). Only house number.

House 6 in Lisgrea

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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi .welcome to Rootschat.
Are there any named properties on other pages that might be found.
The enumeraters route on the first page might help.
I'm not familiar with Irish census though.
Census information is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)

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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 21:55 GMT (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat, Vetter4  :)

Can you please give the name of your father.

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It is from either cencus  In county Cavan, in Lisgrea (Virginia). Only house number.

House 6 in Lisgrea

Here's the 1901 and 1911 censuses for Lisgrea (Virginia, Cavan).

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s2z/
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s30/

Lisgrea townland, Co. Cavan
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/castlerahan/lurgan/virginia/lisgrea/



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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 22:08 GMT (UK) »
He was not born yet in 1901 but his family was living there. One of his brothers was Thomas Farrelly


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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 February 23 13:05 GMT (UK) »
The numbers on the 1901 and  1911 census are form numbers not house numbers.
So if this is the family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Virginia/Lisgrea/1052916/
This I believe is the family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Virginia/Lisgrea/350243/

By 1911 James has died leaving his wife is Mary (Fitzsimons) as head of the family.
Thomas birth 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01994/1767307.pdf
Rose 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01920/1744236.pdf

James and Mary married in 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10985/8016103.pdf
The house and building return will give you an idea of what type of house it was
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000438288/
James father was Laurence, so he MAY be the Laurence Farrelly listed in Griffith's Valuation at 23a
which you can find on Ask About Ireland but there are quite a few Farrelly in the area.
The map will show the farm and the position of the house.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
The Land Registry should be able to follow through on the townland and plot number, the form number from the Census or the name James Farrelly isn't any use to them.

I could have the wrong family in 1911 I only looked at a couple of births.
James died 1903 before the youngest child John was born is that in keeping with what you know about the family?

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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 15:36 GMT (UK) »
How do I look up on griffins with the number you gave me

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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 16:19 GMT (UK) »
You don't use the number.
Search for Farrelly Laurence or you can leave out the first name to see all the Farrelly entries.
County Cavan
Parish Lurgan

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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Yea. Had done all that. Doesn’t really help to locate the property.

Did about as much as I could.

Did an satellite view on google Ireland maps and saw a few places could be based on my other searches

Thanks for your help

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Re: Tracing Location of a house listed on 1901 and 1911 cencus
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Did you look at the map on Griffith's Valuation? Although Find My Past has a better one.