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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 February 23 05:35 GMT (UK) »
I know not all familytrees are correct - this one has Lucy Boden born 1887 in Stourbridge
Lucy Boden
Born 6 August 1887 - Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Deceased
 
Parents
John Boden 1855-
Mary Dart 1860-
 
Spouses and children
Married in November 1912, Stourbridge, Worcestershire, to David Guest sr 1889-1964 with
F Jane Boden 1911-2004
M David Jr Guest 1917-1982
F Polly Guest 1919-2004
M Samuel Guest 1922-1981
F Elsie Guest
 
Siblings
F Jane Boden 1878-
M Harry Boden 1885-
M John Boden ca 1891-
F Lily Boden 1892-
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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 February 23 05:49 GMT (UK) »
same tree owner seems to have David Guest Snr details correct
Born 9 June 1889 - Dudley, Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Deceased in April 1964 - Dudley, Staffordshire, aged 74 years old
 
Parents
Joseph Guest ca 1856-
Emma Clark 1860-1918
 
Spouses and children
Married in November 1912, Stourbridge, Worcestershire, to Lucy Boden 1887- with
F Jane Boden 1911-2004
M David Jr Guest 1917-1982
F Polly Guest 1919-2004
M Samuel Guest 1922-1981
F Elsie Guest
 
Siblings
M William Guest ca 1886-
M Joseph Guest 1889-1964
M Thomas Guest ca 1893-
F Nellie Guest ca 1898-

so - Davids parents as Joseph Guest and Emma Clark - not David Guest
so - is David Guest a bit of a Tom Pepper ?  did he lie about his father - as Girl Guide found - David Guest b 1879 - mmn Guest - I think Girl Guide has it right - he was illegitimate and didn't know who his father was - but we will never know ????
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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 February 23 05:58 GMT (UK) »
Did you notice -  Lucy Boden had a child Jane Boden b 23rd January 1911
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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 February 23 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Did you notice -  Lucy Boden had a child Jane Boden b 23rd January 1911
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I mentioned that in reply no. 4 above.

The David Guest son of David and Hannah appears with his parents in early censuses but I haven't tried following him into later censuses to see if he might be the right one.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 February 23 07:47 GMT (UK) »
I seen your reply Annie - just pointing out Jane stayed a Boden  - usually took the new husbands surname..ie - Jane never became Jane Guest
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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 February 23 13:18 GMT (UK) »
I'd be tempted to get the birth cert of the David born 1879. I know that the GRO has the mother's maiden name as Guest (or maybe no father) and this wouldn't fit with the David/Hannah marriage, but it's possible that there's an error on the cert. I've seen that happen before.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 04 February 23 14:13 GMT (UK) »
same tree owner seems to have David Guest Snr details correct

I think you mean incorrect.

GUEST, DAVID
Mother's maiden surname: CLARK     
GRO Reference: 1889  December Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 77

He married Annie GUEST in 1913, date of birth 11 Oct 1889.  Their youngest child was born in 1927.

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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 04 February 23 14:29 GMT (UK) »
I'd be tempted to get the birth cert of the David born 1879. I know that the GRO has the mother's maiden name as Guest (or maybe no father) and this wouldn't fit with the David/Hannah marriage, but it's possible that there's an error on the cert. I've seen that happen before.

Hannah BELLISON's maiden surname was GUEST.


Marriages Mar 1877   
Bellison    Hannah        Dudley    6c   69    
Guest    David        Dudley    6c   69

1881 census 6, Red Hall Road, Sedgley, Dudley, Staffordshire

David and Hannah with Eliza Bellerson step daughter living with Eli and Charlotte Guest.  David born 1839, occupation navigator.  Son David born 1880 Sedgley.


BELLESON, ELIZA  ANN
Mother's maiden surname:   GUEST     
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 107

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Re: Guest pensnett Staffordshire
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 05 February 23 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Baptisms;

02 Jul 1879, St James the Great, Lower Gornal, Staffordshire
DAVID Guest, son of DAVID/HANNAH
Father a Labourer
Abode Red Hall 
Siblings;
WILLIAM  30 Nov 1881 (David/Anna)
ELI 26 Dec 1883 (David/Hannah
Both have same abode


The other one;
11 Nov 1889, St Peter, Upper Gornal
DAVID Guest, son of JOSEPH/EMMA
Fathers occp Coal Miner formerly Bricklayers Labourer
Abode 13 Pale St. Upper Gornal

Both on FreeREG

Trish :)

Marriage of Hannah to Mark BELLISON is on Freereg also 1870
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