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Offline Seelife

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How to find William Wind of CowClose again
« on: Saturday 18 February 23 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Folks, this brick wall is frustrating me. I thought I may try a different approach. I have got all the "likely" marriages from DRO for Williams in a timeframe and then go through each to see if children etc match. Does that seem a likely approach? I have already excluded one as the kids do not match.
These are the suspects :

1. Chester-le-Street St. Mary and St. Cuthbert   1718, William Wind, Mary   Coxon (excluded as children do not match)
2. Witton Gilbert St. Michael and All Angels, 1750, William Wind, Kimblesworth   Ann   Hopper (??)
3. Whickham St. Mary, 1751, William   Winn, Elizabeth   Kirtly (??)
4. Chester-le-Street St. Mary and St. Cuthbert,   1754, William Wind (born 1731), Mary Hind (excluded as this guy is the Lumely family)
5. Heworth St. Mary, 1757, William Winn, Martha   Harrison (??)

William of Cow Close has five children, all born in Cow Close.
There are five children attributed to "my" William Wind of Lamesly. Not to be confused with William Wind of Lumley born 1731 who is an entirely different family.
Baptisms Chester-le-Street 1755 Margaret Wind Cow Close William
Baptisms Chester-le-Street 1758 Thomas Wind Cow Close William
Baptisms Chester-le-Street 1761 William Wind Cow Close William
Baptisms Chester-le-Street 1767 John Wind Cow Close William
Baptisms Chester-le-Street 1770 Henry Wind Cow Close William

I also came across a Winny/Whinny married 1724 marries a Francis Joplin.
So, there are three candidates (I think). I  would welcome any input on how to approach this roadblock. Does this seem like a way to go. Is there a William (Winn/Wind/Wynne etc ) that I am missing to check out. I have so far scanned DRO and FindMyPast.

ADDED - it seems that William of Whickham married to Elizabeth may not be him as I have found 2 kids, Ann and Jane that dont match Cow Close William.
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Re: How to find William Wind of CowClose again
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 February 23 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't help with a marriage but there is a burial in Lamesly 19 January 1770 of a William Wind of Cow Close. No clue given as to whether it is William the father or William the son.
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Re: How to find William Wind of CowClose again
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 February 23 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Emeltom, yes I believe the 1770 death is of "my" William of Lamesley (Cow Close). He died about aged 40. This ties in with the childrens ages. It gives his approx birth about 1730, but where and who are his parents. On DRO there are these Williams :
Whickham St. Mary   1707   William   Windd
Chester-le-Street St. Mary and St. Cuthbert   1709   William   Wind
Whickham St. Mary   1727   William   Winn
Chester-le-Street St. Mary and St. Cuthbert   1731   William   Wind
Jarrow St. Paul   1734   William   Winn

The 1731 one we know, I am also trying to sort the others in the same way. I am not sure if that is all the possibilities tho.
Added - I think William 1727 married Elizabeth Cirtlry and children at this stage dont seem to match.
Re William the son, I believe the son died 1812 and was married to a Jane Clark.
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Re: How to find William Wind of CowClose again
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 February 23 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Folks, thanks to anyone who has been pondering this family.
I had thought there was only one Wind family in Cow Close. But I did an "open" scan of DRO looking at "abodes". I went down to the CowClose results and there were two more baptisms, I had previously opened them but not made the connection. There is a family of William Wind and 5 kids (he seems to have died 1770). But the other two are some time later, 1794, 1796 /Ann and Elizabeth) to John and Margaret Wind of Cow Close. I have this family on Wikitree as well.
I do think that this John is William1730ish son born 1767. That John I believe marries Margaret Teasdale and has about 6 kids (including Ann and Elizabeth). It does not add depth to William but at least I see that folk were living there. John seems to move away to Urpeth then Birtley Northside.

ADDED-
I did an even wider search of DRO on just Cow Close, 1690-1770 getting about 460 hits (baptisms, burial marriage etc). There are no Winn/Winds until 1750s. BUT - there are baptisms for a few named SKINN in the 1730s. Could this be a name variation? I have never seen this name before and will look around.
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Re: How to find William Wind of CowClose again
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi folks. I think I have excluded any marriages that were in the timeframe. I wondered if maybe there was a nonconformist angle but the children were baptised Anglican. I also noted that son Henry appears in a transcript as a Mariner.
Is it possible that William was born outside the parish and also a Mariner?
It does seem unlikely tho. I have been hunting name variations but nothing so far. Also looked at illegitimate births but nothing I can see fits.
Lamesley and the Cow Close pits were not small communities around then and altho there was another Wind family there wasn't a connection I could see....It's a  mystery.
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Re: How to find William Wind of CowClose again
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 16:23 GMT (UK) »
This may be interesting. Its the first time I have seen this record on DRO. Baptism of William [blank], 29 Jun 1735 of Cow Close, son of William [blank], Location: Lamesley, County Durham, Anglican

This could well be the William that I assumed was born about 1730. That would make him 20 years old when his first child was born to an as yet unknown mother. There is no surname for father or son and no mother. Where could I maybe find more info on this record, would there be images somewhere?
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