Please can you help me with something

[dorothyl]

Hello again.
I'm a bit lost. I'm trying to find out where where 2 boys were sent to a home I think it was something like style cottage I'm not sure. But these 2 boys were some how related to my great gran Frances Jones. From what I can understand is they were sent to this home because of family circumstances. The 2 boys stayed there until they were old enough to leave.
I can't remember there names.

Which is given me a thought.
Maybe my grandad Alfred Evan Jones was sent there later because his mum wasn't married from what my mum said many years ago her gran Frances had asked her employer if it was possible for her to have her son with her. She was asked how old her son was. She replied and said 15 years old. He was allowed to live with his mum.

So I've been trying to find out about these 2 boys and now the where abouts of my grandad Alfred Evan Jones from when he was born until he was 15 years old. If anyone can help me with these I would really appreciate it and I will be able to stop trying to figure it out.
As for the last few days it's been driving me daft.
So I thought I'd ask for help by the experts.
Thank you all again.
Kind regards
Dorothy

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Hi dorothyl

That all sounds very sad. Can you give us some more information? Dates, towns, family background? This will narrow the search.

Good luck.

Peter

[CaroleW]

Hi

With a surname like Jones we need all the help you can give us 😂

We have no names, no birthyears, no birthplaces so are on a hiding to nothing so far.

Freebmd has 11 entries for the name Alfred Evan Jones between 1844 - 1897 & that assumes your Alfred's birth was registered

Was Jones Frances’s married name or her maiden name?  Was she the mother of all 3 boys?

[Dundee]

One of many previous threads:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783294.0

Debra 

[garden genie]

I think the place name you are after is Styal near Wilmslow. Styal Mill and apprentices house is now National Trust property. I think Styal Cottage Homes was nearby. There also is or was a Styal open prison. I don't remember which buildings mutated into which establishment.

[BumbleB]

The two boys were

Ernest Jones - aged 11 in 1911 and his brother Albert - aged 9.

They are the sons of William Hopwood Jones and his second wife Edith Maria Matthews.  William died in 1907, and Edith then married Henry Waterhouse in 1913.

The 1911 census shows the two boys at Styal Cottage Homes, whilst Edith and the two daughters were living in West Gorton.

The relationship with Alfred Evan Jones is via William Hopwood Jones, who is the father of Alfred Evans's mother, Frances by his first wife, Ellen Tomlinson.

Ooh - just realised that I have Ernest on the 1921 census as Ernest Hopwood Jones aged 21 as stepson with Henry Waterhouse and Edith Maria.

[BumbleB]

An additional bit of information, which I think I have already given to you.

The two boys, Ernest Hopwood Jones and Albert Jones, left Styal House in 1913 and were admitted to Armitage Street School in Manchester on 19 May 1913.  Henry Waterhouse is said to be their father.  Address was 17 Spurgeon Street.  Ernest left school on 6 March 1914, and Albert on 2 July 1915.