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Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« on: Sunday 12 March 23 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi folks, the attachments below are taken from a 1687 will - Joan Cantrell of Wetton in Staffs leaving a farm to Anne, the daughter of her nephew Thomas. The three words at the beginning of line three (above the the name Thomas Cantrell) on the first image looks like the name of the farm but cannot for the life of me work it out. Any ideas?

The other image shows a little more of the same passage for context.
Many thanks
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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:07 GMT (UK) »
The first word is Great and the second could be Brasse, although I'm not happy with the initial letter. Perhaps it is a capital G and therefore Grasse. I'm sure someone will along soon to identify it,

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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:16 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Old Bristolian, and I think those three words read … great Brasse Pann

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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Apologies, but isn't the third word "Farm"  :-\
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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 12 March 23 15:26 GMT (UK)
Apologies, but isn't the third word "Farm"  :-\

I don't think so. I think it's Pann.
The first letter is a capital P.
A capital F in this hand is usually written ff.
The letter r in this hand is written like a small w (many examples in the extract).

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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:36 GMT (UK) »
I bow to your very much greater knowledge  :-X  :-*
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
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Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 12 March 23 15:36 GMT (UK)
I bow to your very much greater knowledge  :-X  :-*

Nonsense. We all see these things differently.

Looking at the full record on FindMyPast, I see the inventory has an item ...
One Great: Pan of Brass

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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to be "sarky" and that inventory makes sense - a large brass pan (in modern terms).  Our ancestors' wills make very interesting reading.
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: Stuck on Deciphering Two Words -1687 Will
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 March 23 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 12 March 23 15:44 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to be "sarky"

No apology needed - I know you weren't  :)
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