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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 March 23 21:41 BST (UK) »
I have Goodacre's in 1700s Bermondsey, and the surname is a Leicestershire name.

Also my Jerome ancestors of Bermondsey in the 1700s can be traced back to Scropton, Derbyshire. My ancestor Parmenas Jerome's dad was William Jerome, a feltmaker according to his children's baptisms. I found his London apprenticeship records for 1696, and he wed in 1703. The 1696 apprenticeship abstracts said he was the son of Robert Jerome a yeoman of Scropton.

I cannot get back further than William Goodacre born c1710 but if he had midland ancestor or was from there originally, then it seems many of my Bermondsey kinfolk originally came from the Midlands.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 03 April 23 16:29 BST (UK) »
Good link Treetotal, thanks. 

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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 April 23 19:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the link Treetotal.

Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 03 April 23 22:35 BST (UK) »
It is really good for tracing the movement of the population using related surnames.
Glad it is of some use for you all.
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CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 April 23 15:22 BST (UK) »
You may strike lucky with pre census ancestors in towns and cities who left a will or were subject to a poor law record stating where they were once settled. Or they had a rare name, or they were immigrants such as Huguenots who kept great records. My ancestor Susan Fradine born 1765 had one immigrant parent, her French father who was one of the last Huguenots to come to the UK. Susan's mother's grandparents were all born in France, as was one parent, her father. I embrace my Huguenot ancestry.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 12:24 BST (UK) »
I have a 3x Sussex great-grandmother named French; figure someone hoped over the Channel at around the time surnames were becoming permanent.

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Re: Locative surnames in cities before census and BMD eras.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 06 April 23 18:42 BST (UK) »
I was reading my book last night about tracing Huguenot ancestry and it did say you can hit a dead end in genealogy in the 1700s (which is quite well known) but it was also a time of great mobility. Trouble is it is not easy proving they came from somewhere else unless you hit lucky.

Glad my 5xgreat grandmother Susannah Fradine chose to romance a man named Dennis Helsdon in the 1780s and marry him, and not a John Smith. I was soon able to prove my 5xgreat grandfather Dennis came from Norfolk.

Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain