Need help with name please.

[jonwarrn]

Actually I see that first image IS the new exam paper for 1928/9

[jonwarrn]

So in the free index to the 1921 census Percy could be
Percy Painter, born 1900, Ilminster, Somerset
Army

In Hammersmith in 1911

[Mitche11]

So in the free index to the 1921 census Percy could be
Percy Painter, born 1900, Ilminster, Somerset
Army

In Hammersmith in 1911

Thank you for the link and yes I would say Percy Painter was in the army in 1921.

[Mitche11]

So in the free index to the 1921 census Percy could be
Percy Painter, born 1900, Ilminster, Somerset
Army

In Hammersmith in 1911

Percy's father Albert must have had an affair with Elizabeth Mead, Percy has stated on his exam papers that his mother is Elizabeth also his birth record has mmn MEAD, all Albert's other children have mmn LEAVES. Let me know your thoughts on this!

[jonwarrn]

9 April 1898, Ashill
Albert Painter, 21, Bachelor, Carter, residence Ashill, father William Painter, Gardener
+
Sarah Ann Leaves, 22, Spinster, residence Ilminster, father Thomas Leaves, Deceased
wit George Painter, Florence Leaves

Birth
PAINTER, PERCY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: MEAD 
GRO Reference: 1900  D Quarter in CHARD  Volume 05C  Page 343

Baptism, 9 Nov 1900, Ilminster
Percy
Albert & Sarah Ann Painter
Townsend Ilminster
Father a Carter

Mrs. Painter?
LEAVES, SARAH  ANN     
Mother's Maiden Surname: CHICK 
GRO Reference: 1876  D Quarter in CHARD  Volume 05C  Page 400

[Mitche11]

9 April 1898, Ashill
Albert Painter, 21, Bachelor, Carter, residence Ashill, father William Painter, Gardener
+
Sarah Ann Leaves, 22, Spinster, residence Ilminster, father Thomas Leaves, Deceased
wit George Painter, Florence Leaves

Birth
PAINTER, PERCY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: MEAD 
GRO Reference: 1900  D Quarter in CHARD  Volume 05C  Page 343

Baptism, 9 Nov 1900, Ilminster
Percy
Albert & Sarah Ann Painter
Townsend Ilminster
Father a Carter

Mrs. Painter?
LEAVES, SARAH  ANN     
Mother's Maiden Surname: CHICK 
GRO Reference: 1876  D Quarter in CHARD  Volume 05C  Page 400

Albert married Sarah Ann Leaves on 9 April 1898 in Ashill, Somerset then in 1909 he married Margaret Wylde Baxter. Percy mentions his mother as being Elizabeth in the exam papers and on his birth record his mmn is MEAD, I cannot find a birth record for Bessie Painter Percy’s sister born Hammersmith about 1904, she is on the 1911 census.

[softly softly]

Bessie Baxter, probably the illegitimate daughter of Margaret pre her marriage to Albert   

BAXTER, BESSIE  ELIZABETH STEEL    - 
GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 304

In 1921 census with Albert & Margaret
Bessie
Baxter
1903
Hammersmith, London, England
Hammersmith
Hammersmith
London, Middlesex

Marriages Dec 1924   
Baxter    Bessie E S    Cooper    Hammersmith    1a   648

2nd marriage

Marriages Dec 1933   
Cooper    Bessie E S    Clark    Hammersmith    1a   650

Clark/Baxter birth


Births Dec 1935   
Clark    (Female)    Baxter    Hammersmith    1a   244

Look for Bessie Clark dob 18/6/1903 in 1939.

****************
Births Jun 1882 
Baxter    Margaret Wylde        Fulham    1a   205

***************

Name:   Margaret Wylde Painter
Death Age:   87
Birth Date:   3 Mar 1882
Registration Date:   Oct 1969
[Nov 1969]
[Dec 1969]
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District:   Hammersmith
Inferred County:   Greater London
Volume:   5b
Page:   2004

*******************

Name:   Albert Painter
Death Age:   82
Birth Date:   abt 1877
Registration Date:   Oct 1959
[Nov 1959]
[Dec 1959]
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District:   Hammersmith
Inferred County:   London
Volume:   5c
Page:   765
John

added, look for Albert Painter dob 1/4/1877 in 1939 with family also

PAINTER, ALICE  FLORENCE     BAXTER 
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 351

Births Jun 1921   
Painter    Jack    mmn Barter(Baxter)    Hammersmith    1a   372

[Mitche11]

Bessie Baxter, probably the illegitimate daughter of Margaret pre her marriage to Albert   

BAXTER, BESSIE  ELIZABETH STEEL    - 
GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 304

In 1921 census with Albert & Margaret
Bessie
Baxter
1903
Hammersmith, London, England
Hammersmith
Hammersmith
London, Middlesex

Marriages Dec 1924   
Baxter    Bessie E S    Cooper    Hammersmith    1a   648

2nd marriage

Marriages Dec 1933   
Cooper    Bessie E S    Clark    Hammersmith    1a   650

Clark/Baxter birth


Births Dec 1935   
Clark    (Female)    Baxter    Hammersmith    1a   244

Look for Bessie Clark dob 18/6/1903 in 1939.

****************
Births Jun 1882 
Baxter    Margaret Wylde        Fulham    1a   205

***************

Name:   Margaret Wylde Painter
Death Age:   87
Birth Date:   3 Mar 1882
Registration Date:   Oct 1969
[Nov 1969]
[Dec 1969]
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District:   Hammersmith
Inferred County:   Greater London
Volume:   5b
Page:   2004

*******************

Name:   Albert Painter
Death Age:   82
Birth Date:   abt 1877
Registration Date:   Oct 1959
[Nov 1959]
[Dec 1959]
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District:   Hammersmith
Inferred County:   London
Volume:   5c
Page:   765
John

added, look for Albert Painter dob 1/4/1877 in 1939 with family also

PAINTER, ALICE  FLORENCE     BAXTER 
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 351

Births Jun 1921   
Painter    Jack    mmn Barter(Baxter)    Hammersmith    1a   372

Thank you John.

I have a lot of information on Percy Painter but I am still no further forward with Frances Taylor/Martyn/Morley/Painter - father: Stephen Taylor, also I have very limited information on Frances first partner: Frank/Francis Martyn - these are my husbands direct ancestors and I was hoping the more information I had on Percy Painter it would give me a lead to Frances 

[jonwarrn]

I think the feeling here (I may be wrong of course!) is that your Frances is the daughter of Stephen and Martha (in your first post).
Frances may have reduced her age later on, she was certainly much younger than her husband Percy, and possibly a few years younger than the mysterious Frank Martyn.

Do you think this is Frank's death?
Sep 1935 Surrey Mid-eastern
Martyn, Frank   
Age 64

That's another death in an Epsom mental hospital, Horton this time.

If you are able to at some time in the future, the birth certificates of the first two children, Frances Evelyn and Frank Edwin, might be useful. It does seem that Frank Martyn may not have been the father of Frances.