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Adopted Grandmother
« on: Monday 01 May 23 01:33 BST (UK) »
My Grandmother was born in 1905 and a file she started in 1965 had letters from the children's home in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.  The Superintendent letter informed her that she was born July 19, 1905 and that her mother was Julia O'Dell born 1887.  The 1905 census in SD had a Julia Odell working as a Chamber Maid and My Grandmother said she heard 1. Her Mom was born in Iowa 2. Her mom  was a maid and thought she had become a teacher. 3. last name of Love"" was somewhere.

I know its not much to go on but I would like to know more and what happened to her relatives afterwards.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 May 23 02:01 BST (UK) »
1905 Sioux Falls
Julia Odell 18, chamber maid. Born Buffalo Center, Iowa. 11 yrs in Sth Dakota
Mother born in Omaha, Neb

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6324-S23?i=968&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMMHM-9JR

Not easy to find much more than that bit of information.
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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 May 23 02:29 BST (UK) »
Some house!
Reminds me of the Adam's Family house.  ;D
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 May 23 05:43 BST (UK) »
I know its not much to go on but I would like to know more and what happened to her relatives afterwards.
Have you considered taking a DNA test which may help in your quest?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 May 23 14:01 BST (UK) »
I have worked with the DNA. However, no obvious match to this name shows.  I'm sure many of the matches are of her ancestors but many of them are not linked or private.

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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 May 23 06:39 BST (UK) »
I have worked with the DNA. However, no obvious match to this name shows.  I'm sure many of the matches are of her ancestors but many of them are not linked or private.
I have little in the way of matching surnames with DNA matches but by concentrating on the LEEDS Method (among other things) I've managed to fit together a couple of interesting matches & I've managed to link up an adoptee to their mother!

https://www.danaleeds.com/the-leeds-method/

One of my matches (11th highest) on MH, surname unknown to me with a tree with only parents names!
Matching me at 1.1% (78.62 cM) Shared segments 3, Longest segment 51.98 cM
Estimated 3rd cousin which would mean we should share gg g/parents.

I contacted the match who had absolutely no info. beyond the parents (not sure why my match took a DNA test)?

I set to work on finding an index of the marriage to give me a start with date/place as it's too recent to view online...or so I thought!

It was just prior to the cut off date, the couple were both in their teens, fantastic! :-)

Add...There was a bonus, the 2nd marriage of her widowed mother was on the same page!

It turned out the paternal side were possibly Polish or similar & had changed their foreign surname for whatever reason although it doesn't appear to be anglicised as such as it doesn't even begin with the same initial?

I was able from there to search back the maternal line who was my relative whose mother was illegitimate...result within a couple of hours.

It's worth remembering DNA sites can only give a possibility (of which there are many) based on the amount of DNA...

My match turned out to be my 4th cousin rather than my 3rd cousin.


There are sites which also help with DNA matching such as...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DNADetectives

Establishing matches may help find the answers?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 May 23 07:48 BST (UK) »
last name of Love somewhere - in your post
could it have been LOVINA O'DELL as the Love connection
Lovina O'Dell
Born 16 March 1840 - Wells County, Indiana, USA
Deceased 20 December 1917 - Marshall County, Iowa, USA, aged 77 years old
Buried - Green Mountain, Marshall, Iowa, USA

a long shot I know - but Lovina never married - just wondering if she could be Julias Nan ????
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https://gw.geneanet.org/yensid1973?n=o+dell&oc=&p=lovina&_gl=1*14212n3*_ga*NTM3NjIzODQ0LjE2NTgyMTQwODE.*_ga_S66RR38B4P*MTY4NDY0OTc5OS4zMC4xLjE2ODQ2NTEzOTguNTYuMC4w
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Re: Adopted Grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 September 23 18:46 BST (UK) »
garstonite,

It does look very promising with such an unusual name!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"